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re: Kim Jong Un has won the war against "The Interview". Update: Sony cancels relase
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:43 pm to chickman1313
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:43 pm to chickman1313
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why is it a fallacy? never really understood that.
I'm being serious, would like an explanation...
It mostly has to do with the degree that people infer that another event will inevitably happen.
OMG Sony cancelled the release of a movie because of terrorists, so the US government will basically have to shape policy due to threats from North Korea.
It doesn't have to be that extreme but you get the idea.
People wrongly assume that if you do one action, that a subsequent action must follow. Which is untrue because restraint is possible.
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:45 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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What kind of info could they possibly have that would allow them frightened enough not to release the movie?
Probably someone saying the n-word and if they did they could get the company taken away from them because of it
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:46 pm to lsu480
quote:or a sony employee asked a black person at target if they can reach an item on the top shelf for them
Probably someone saying the n-word and if they did they could get the company taken away from them because of it
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:47 pm to KosmoCramer
right, well i understand what the slippery slope thought process is, but i guess i dont understand why it is incorrect.
so you are saying the reason it is a fallacy is because restraint is possible?
In my mind, I sort of agree and disagree. Not necessarily on this subject because I think cancelling a movie isnt that big of a deal. I also kinda think that if someone saw that these threats worked, maybe a threat would work on shutting down something else. Probably not though, because cancelling a movie is a pretty small thing in the grand scheme of things.
so you are saying the reason it is a fallacy is because restraint is possible?
In my mind, I sort of agree and disagree. Not necessarily on this subject because I think cancelling a movie isnt that big of a deal. I also kinda think that if someone saw that these threats worked, maybe a threat would work on shutting down something else. Probably not though, because cancelling a movie is a pretty small thing in the grand scheme of things.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:48 pm to jose canseco
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Missing the point. Who cares about the movie. The threat worked. What threat will work next??
this
I can't believe they caved like this
All this will do is embolden other hackers to carry out similar attacks.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:48 pm to MSMHater
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Real threats to release data is why Sony caved.
Sony delayed release of film bc no theaters would play it. They had no choice. Once the 5 majors cinemas refused to show the movie due to terrorist threats, Sony made a statement.
It will still be released on DVD and make a killing. My point was terrorist threats worked and in a way, compromised free speech in the US.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:49 pm to chickman1313
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so you are saying the reason it is a fallacy is because restraint is possible?
Yes. Just because A happens doesn't mean that B will happen.
The mindset might change which could lead to B, but B isn't guaranteed to happen thus it's a fallacy. A doesn't really have any bearing on B.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:49 pm to Fearthehat0307
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or a sony employee asked a black person at target if they can reach an item on the top shelf for them
If that really did happen the administration needs to nationalize/seize it and distribute their assets to black Americans that have suffered from Sony's racism.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:53 pm to jose canseco
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It will still be released on DVD and make a killing
No way it will make a killing if it is not released in theaters, in fact there is no way it will even make any profit.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:53 pm to CherryGarciaMan
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What kind of info could they possibly have that would allow them frightened enough not to release the movie?
Well, for one thing, they have already released a bunch of health claims data for specific Sony employees and dependants. They probably have alot more.
Per HIPAA, each individual disclosure can carry a penalty of $50K-$1.5 million. The fact that it was a hack does not matter.
That's just the medical data. Individuals effected by the hack can also bring civil claims against Sony for disclosure of their personal info, financial info, etc...
There could be civil litigation for their wage practices if it can be proven there are gender or race disparities.
So much potential for litigation against the company based on the hacks.
ETA: :tinfoilhaton: It would not surprise me if Sony played a key part in the decision by theaters to not show the movie, giving them an out to delay/cancel the release.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:04 pm to RedRifle
Oh well I was gonna bootleg it anyway
Theaters are a waste of money
Theaters are a waste of money
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:05 pm to RedRifle
God, now I really want to see the movie
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:09 pm to CherryGarciaMan
I never expected to hear you say that after reading your extreme liberal poetical posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:12 pm to RedRifle
What does this guardians of peace want? They got what they wanted but they will still leak more emails Sony executives had sent
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:15 pm to CherryGarciaMan
I think the movie release being delayed had more to do with the major theatre chains deciding not to show the movie over terrorist threats than it did with Sony worrying about the hacked info. Sony surely knows that any hacked info is going to be released regardless.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:23 pm to MrPackSix
quote:Rainierland dot com will have it up before the weekend.
Oh well I was gonna bootleg it anyway
Theaters are a waste of money
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:26 pm to JBeam
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DPRK News Service @DPRK_News
Heroes force Japanese cinema bandits to bow before indomitable fist of Korean people. 10,000 years of life to Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un!
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:28 pm to TigerLicks
Putting the hammer down on Sony is way more of an accomplishment than 15 holes in one in a row IMO.
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:33 pm to TigerLicks
Posted on 12/17/14 at 5:36 pm to RedRifle
I just wish I could spit some Beechnut in KJU's eye while I watched it.
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