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re: cost effective cooking on a diet - recipe thread

Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Any advice for marinating and cooking chicken breast or thighs for salads without using a grill?

Try poaching...it will keep boneless/skinless breasts from drying out. You can flavor the poaching liquid, but it will be subtle. Which means the resulting chicken is perfect for making chicken salad.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:39 pm to
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well im my experience, healthier foods tend to be a 'cook fresh every night' sort of deal, where as i can make a pot of gumbo and we can eat on it for days. average $15-20 per night for a healthy dinner x7 nights adds up.


Jesus, what are you making? If it cost $20 a night to cook healthy for you, youre doing it wrong. Fresh food such as produce and fatty meat are dirt cheap. There is so much misconception out there about what a healthy diet is that it's almost no use giving any suggestions to anyone because they have to first understand what healthy is. Carbs are ok. Not 300g a day, but 100-150 is no problem if youre using them. Bump the fat content up, especially animal fat.

If youre trying to lose weight, figure out your maintenance calories. Compensate for youre exercise routine and your activity level throughout the day, subtract approx 200-250 per day from that total to figure out your target calories for the day. Then divide those calories across your macros of fat/pro/carb. For example, I weigh 219.5lbs. Im consuming 40%fat/35%pro/25%carb (116g/227g/163g) at 2600 calories a day lifting weight very heavy 3 times a wk. Im just trying to maintain 218+ and have for almost a year now. If I want to lose I would eat the same but bump cals down to 2350 or so. If I want to gain, Im going 2900ish.

Dinner ideas for the entire wk -
Buy a sack of potatoes, a couple packs of chicken thighs, a few lbs of ground chuck or round, a few packs of frozen steamable veggies along with a fresh broccoli head, bundle of carrots, and a few onions/bells. This should cost you approx $30/5 nights equals $6 a night.

Meal 1 - Bake Chicken Thighs w/roasted potatoes
-preheat oven
-Season and bake your chicken in the oven (skin on is way better) as you typically would.
-put pot of salted water boiling
-Dice onions and bells
-Skin and quarter whole potatoes and blanch in boiling water for approx 10 mins.
-Drain and assemble potatoes in a casserole dish and mix with onions/bells/olive oil/whole butter/fresh herbs/etc. Season with whatever you like.
-Bake in oven without cover until theyre done to get a good crisp.
-Throw a bag of steamable veggies in the microwave
-Healthy, cheap, delicious dinner in less than 45 mins with minimal effort that can be stretched for days.

You can do this with any protein/carb/veg combo all for $5-$6 a night if you plan ahead.

This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6763 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:49 pm to
I've been eating bean burritos the past few days. Froze half of it for later.
2 lbs pintos
1 lb black beans
couple of onions
couple of big cans of diced tomatoes
garlic
maybe a little celery
chili p
cumin
salt and pepper
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:49 pm to
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Me, too. But then again, I don't consider completely carbless meals to be ideal for health or weightloss. If you focus solely on animal protein, you're missing out on a world of very delicious, good-for-you foods. Cheapest, best-for-you meals are all legume-based. You can cook huge batches of beans in advance and freeze. A few healthy, bean-centric ideas for ya:


Very good advice. Legumes are great as additive or as an alone protein base.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 1:55 pm to
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Get rid of the skin (or give to the dog) then stir fry with veggies and your favorite sauce. Serve over brown rice. Made some two days ago. Came out great. Very healthy. Very Cheap.


No!!!!!!! That's the best part . Animal fat is not bad for you guys. Fat in general is not bad for you. Also, Brown rice isnt particular good for you either. It's not bad, it's just delusional to think that it's healthier for you. The glycemic index of brown rice is 55. The glycemic index of long grain white rice is 56. Sure it has more fiber but it burns longer (alot longer) in your body so your body isnt allowed to do what it naturally wants to do...burn calories efficiently on an empty stomach. If youre going run a marathon then yea, brown rice is the way to go. How many of us are running marathons?
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13582 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:00 pm to
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Also, a huge pot of turkey chili is cheap and makes multiple meals for the week. Can also be frozen as well. You can make it with beans if you want more carbs for your kids.


Chili is general is great. Why are you using turkey as opposed to beef/pork? Do you prefer the flavor? If so, then good for you. If youre trying to stay away from the fat, then eating turkey over beef isnt healthier. In fact, you want that beef fat and alot of it. I prefer beef, so I eat beef. If you prefer turkey, then awesome. Just dont want you to believe that the fat in beef and pork is bad.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:06 pm to
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Chili is general is great. Why are you using turkey as opposed to beef/pork? Do you prefer the flavor? If so, then good for you. If youre trying to stay away from the fat, then eating turkey over beef isnt healthier. In fact, you want that beef fat and alot of it. I prefer beef, so I eat beef. If you prefer turkey, then awesome. Just dont want you to believe that the fat in beef and pork is bad.


I was actually about to ask you to critique my macros. Honestly, I use turkey because I like the taste and also because of it's lower calorie content. It's sort of become a habit to use turkey. I'm not using it so much as to avoid fat, but to take in less calories. Is that a bad idea in your opinion?

I'm not really fat phobic. I just find it easier to stay within my caloric range when I use turkey.

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:09 pm to
I use ground turkey in place of ground beef because of the price. Ground turkey is significantly cheaper than ground beef, given you keep the same lean/fat ratio.

quote:

I just find it easier to stay within my caloric range when I use turkey.


+1

I have a large appetite. Always have, always will. If I can eat more volume of food but stay in my caloric limit, I typically will. I usually get 93/7 ground turkey, or 85/15 if I'm feeling cheap.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72028 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:18 pm to

I like to make burrito bowls, similar to what you see at Chipotle. You can use any protein you like - chicken, pork, steak, etc. Any kind of greens you want- lettuce, kale, spinach etc. As someone mentioned earlier, beans are a great option- you can add whatever type of beans you want. You can throw rice in it. Sautee a bunch of veggies to put in it. I also like to add cut up sweet potatoes. I'll top it with some all-natural salsa and some siracha or hot sauce. I avoid putting corn (no nutritional value) and cheese in it.

The other thing that I like to use is zucchini noodles. There are tons of things you can do with them. You can do the typical protein and veggie mix with them. You can do an italian style meal where you cook down a few cans of san marzano tomatoes to make a sauce, then combine it with some browned ground beef to toss with your "zoodles".

Roasted broccoli or cauliflower tastes great and are very filling. Cauliflower "mashed potatoes" are a game changer. Great with a steak or meatloaf


I try and keep my meals as close to paleo as possible. They are usually very filling and conducive to a healthier lifestyle. Avoid most complex carbs, sugar, soft drinks etc and you are well on your way.
This post was edited on 12/17/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 2:25 pm to
+1 on eating turkey because of price. title of thread was "cost effective cooking", after all. in my area, turkey is as much as $3/lb cheaper than ground beef.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:12 pm to
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While they do have more flavor, they are also higher in fat. If you're watching those fat numbers, thighs will start to add up.


Chicken breast-

Calories 110 Calories from Fat 22
Total Fat 2.5g
Saturated Fat 0.5g
Cholesterol 65mg
Sodium 180mg
Protein 23.0g

Chicken thigh-

Calories 110 Calories from Fat 36

Total Fat 4.0g
Saturated Fat 1.0g
Cholesterol 85mg
Sodium 250mg
Protein 20.0g



That extra gram of fat is gonna make you fat.
Posted by zmoney2613
Eunice
Member since Jan 2008
3345 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:42 pm to
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That extra gram of fat is gonna make you fat.



I simply said it'll add up, nothing more.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:44 pm to
Add up to what?

Basically a negligible amount of fat? Yes.
Posted by zmoney2613
Eunice
Member since Jan 2008
3345 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 4:54 pm to
I think it's more than a 1 gram difference as you stated but ok.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76522 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:11 pm to
That's a common misconception. But it's not.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48850 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 7:27 pm to
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One thing I make large batches of is turkey muffins (they are really just meatballs but I make them with a muffin tray). I make a bunch on Sunday and eat them throughout the week as lunch, dinner, or as snacks. You can eat them alone or eat them some spaghetti squash, rice, or veggies.


I bet these freeze well individually, then pull out however many you need.

And I only see one post for fish. I love chicken and turkey but I eat a lot of fish.

I like eggs too. Make a big western omelet and serve with a salad for a light dinner.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 8:44 pm to
I cook so much chicken that variety is important. If I'm not saucing, I will either go with a spicy (hot sauce, Tony's, red pepper flakes, cayenne) or mexican (olive oil, heavy on the cumin). If saucing, I'll go with a basic spicy rub and slather either sweet baby rays or some spicy garlic wing sauce on just before done, depending on mood. I use a meat thermometer both on the grill and in the oven.

As far as budget, I like to cook in batches and freeze in Mason jars. I'm on a quinoa kick lately, which can be great if done right (stock and rotel help). Done everything from stuffed bellpeppers to jambalaya with it, though a variation of a southwestern chicken and rice dish freezes the best. Quinoa can get a bit pricy so I stretch it out with plenty of bellpepper, onion, celery, and even zucchini.

Buy in bulk from a Samsclub type store. I load up on pounds of sliced turkey, bananas, eggs, baby carrots, hummus, etc. on the cheap every week or two. I only cook once or twice a week and have built quite the arsenal in the freezer. Grab a few jars out at the beginning of the week and I've got variety ready to eat.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:07 pm to
So you freeze individual meals in mason jars? Or individual ingredients?

Sounds interesting. Why mason jars?
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
17886 posts
Posted on 12/17/14 at 10:56 pm to
Meals. Just find that jarring keeps them fresh and makes stacking easy.
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 12/18/14 at 12:29 am to
One of my go-to's lately has been a typical ramen coleslaw, minus the ramen.

Cole slaw mix
Toasted almonds
Onion tops
Olive oil
Rice wine vinegar
Seasoning to taste

This is normally a side for me but ive been thinking of ways to turn it into a quick lunch. Maybe some grilled shrimp?
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