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Louisiana Hunter Killed in Mississippi
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:31 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:31 am
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Be careful out here, and identify your target before you shoot. Too bad the deceased left his orange in the stand; he may still be alive today.
Be careful out here, and identify your target before you shoot. Too bad the deceased left his orange in the stand; he may still be alive today.
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Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:33 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
There was a big thread about that over the weekend
Posted on 12/16/14 at 7:40 am to KingRanch
I was fixing to say "damn not again"...
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:48 am to KingRanch
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There was a big thread about that over the weekend
Oops.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:54 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
never fight with fellow club hunters.... 
Posted on 12/16/14 at 8:56 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
If not is that this was a hunting club not public land. Wear your orange no matter where you are.
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 8:57 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:03 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
I said it then, I'll say it now..
If your son, dad, brother, wife, etc shoots another person in the woods, he/she is a fricking moron criminal and should be prosecuted as at least a manslaughter case.
There is NO, not one single reason why someone should shoot at something they aren't sure of. A person looks absolutely nothing like a deer!
If you shoot into a bush and kill a Bald Eagle, you are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Why is it less and considered an accident if it's a human?
An accident is when your gun goes off when you didn't plan on it! Not when you squeeze the trigger intentionally.
It's morons like this that give guns/hunting a bad name. And if they aren't adults, then the parents should get hammered for giving the gun to a moron! This shite can't keep happening!
I know these are decent people, but a gun should be treated like a car.....you operate it recklessly and cause a death, you are punished by the law.
If your son, dad, brother, wife, etc shoots another person in the woods, he/she is a fricking moron criminal and should be prosecuted as at least a manslaughter case.
There is NO, not one single reason why someone should shoot at something they aren't sure of. A person looks absolutely nothing like a deer!
If you shoot into a bush and kill a Bald Eagle, you are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Why is it less and considered an accident if it's a human?
An accident is when your gun goes off when you didn't plan on it! Not when you squeeze the trigger intentionally.
It's morons like this that give guns/hunting a bad name. And if they aren't adults, then the parents should get hammered for giving the gun to a moron! This shite can't keep happening!
I know these are decent people, but a gun should be treated like a car.....you operate it recklessly and cause a death, you are punished by the law.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:24 am to GeeOH
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I said it then, I'll say it now..
Oh geez
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If your son, dad, brother, wife, etc shoots another person in the woods, he/she is a fricking moron criminal and should be prosecuted as at least a manslaughter case.
If accidental, this is not the law.
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There is NO, not one single reason why someone should shoot at something they aren't sure of. A person looks absolutely nothing like a deer!
Agreed.
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If you shoot into a bush and kill a Bald Eagle, you are prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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Why is it less and considered an accident if it's a human?
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It's morons like this that give guns/hunting a bad name
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I know these are decent people
Shooter was obviously wrong. No one disagrees with that. Just recognize there is a distinction, morally and legally, between intentional and unintentional acts.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:30 am to GeeOH
I'll go on record as saying if this happens to anyone close to me......I will retaliate
Absolutely no excuse for this....
Slip, trip fall is an accident or even someone being concealed beyond your intended target....
Mistaken for game......shooter should not be hunting
I jumped my kids shat the other day for not wearing orange walking out from a duck hunt...road is property line other side of road heavy deer/hog hunting
Absolutely no excuse for this....
Slip, trip fall is an accident or even someone being concealed beyond your intended target....
Mistaken for game......shooter should not be hunting
I jumped my kids shat the other day for not wearing orange walking out from a duck hunt...road is property line other side of road heavy deer/hog hunting
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 9:32 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 9:32 am to TigerDeacon
They are both at fault, but the man that shot should face some sort of penalty. In my club you are fined for shooting a small buck. The defense of I thought it was a doe is wrong. That just says you didn't know 100% what you were shooting at and you get fined and it goes against your buck limit. I pass on bucks all the time because I'm not 100% on size. Better to let them walk and grow.
In this case the shooter is wrong unless the victim was wearing antlers and a pelt and walking on all fours.
In this case the shooter is wrong unless the victim was wearing antlers and a pelt and walking on all fours.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:18 am to TigerDeacon
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Shooter was obviously wrong. No one disagrees with that. Just recognize there is a distinction, morally and legally, between intentional and unintentional acts.
It is NOT unintentional! He aimed and intentionally pulled the trigger. He didn't drop his gun and it went off accidentally.
I don't care if you see a 12 point clearly yet it walks behind a bush, you CANNOT shoot blindly into the bush not knowing what's behind it. If you do, you are responsible for what you kill, even if it's human.....that would be homicide, period
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:32 am to choupiquesushi
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I'll go on record as saying if this happens to anyone close to me......I will retaliate
Yeah, I don't think posting your intent to murder, on the internet, is the smartest thing.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:38 am to GeeOH
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It is NOT unintentional! He aimed and intentionally pulled the trigger
It was an intentional act, but no intent has been shown, as of yet, to kill someone.
Here is another scenario: I am driving and turn in front of someone. That person dies. Should I have seen them coming, probably. Did I see them? No. Maybe I should have taken another second to look. Maybe I shouldn't have been in such a hurry. I intentionally put my foot on the accelerator. However, in the end, I did not intend to kill them. Am I a murderer? Or was a negligent? There are lot of ways for us to accidentally kill our fellow man.
All that being said, if you are shooting at an unknown, you don't need to be hunting.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:43 am to Purple Spoon
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Wear your orange no matter where you are.
I've gotten to where I wear orange on my own private property because I have no idea if some bozo trespasser is on my propery with a high-powered rifle and a snoot full of liquor.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:44 am to GeeOH
quote:Glad to see you are an idiot on every board.
If your son, dad, brother, wife, etc shoots another person in the woods, he/she is a fricking moron criminal and should be prosecuted as at least a manslaughter case.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:46 am to choupiquesushi
quote:I know who not to ever hunt with on this board.
I'll go on record as saying if this happens to anyone close to me......I will retaliate
Absolutely no excuse for this....
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:46 am to TigerDeacon
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between intentional and unintentional acts.
Shooting somebody in a hunting "accident" is an intentional act. Shoulder, sight, aim, and squeeze all require intent. You may not have hit your intended target, but shooting a firearm requires intent.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:47 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
quote:1/10
Shooting somebody in a hunting "accident" is an intentional act. Shoulder, sight, aim, and squeeze all require intent. You may not have hit your intended target, but shooting a firearm requires intent.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:56 am to TigerDeacon
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Here is another scenario: I am driving and turn in front of someone. That person dies. Should I have seen them coming, probably. Did I see them? No. Maybe I should have taken another second to look. Maybe I shouldn't have been in such a hurry. I intentionally put my foot on the accelerator. However, in the end, I did not intend to kill them. Am I a murderer? Or was a negligent? There are lot of ways for us to accidentally kill our fellow man.
If you broke a law in the process of unintentionally killing a human, YES you are going to be prosecuted for negligent homicide.
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What is Vehicular Manslaughter? Drivers who unintentionally cause accidents that result in the deaths of passengers, occupants of other cars, or pedestrians may find themselves charged with the crime of vehicular manslaughter (also known as vehicular homicide). Vehicular manslaughter charges are appropriate when the driver was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or driving recklessly (or merely carelessly), or otherwise driving in an illegal manner—each state specifies the circumstances that will support charging this crime. The crime of vehicular manslaughter is a relative newcomer to the list of homicide offenses. Before its appearance, these drivers were charged with manslaughter (unintentionally killing someone as a result of criminal negligence or recklessness). But juries were often reluctant to attach the onus of “manslaughter” to a traffic accident. “Vehicular manslaughter” addressed this reluctance by typically providing for lesser penalties than manslaughter itself.
Feel free to read more here: Vehicular homicide
Try all you like, there is no justifying killing someone when you aren't in danger and you methodically point a gun at an object and pull the trigger without identifying what you are shooting.
Do me a favor and go shoot a Whooping Crane and tell the warden you thought it was a sandhill.....
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A Dallas man who pleaded guilty to federal charges surrounding the killing of a whooping crane, protected as an endangered species by federal and state law, will spend six months in prison and faces more than $10,000 in fines. Dallas federal Judge Jerry Buchmeyer on May 14 sentenced Donald W. Jones to six months in federal prison, levied a $2,000 fine and prohibited Jones from hunting again in the United States.
So we protect mistaken fricking crane identity, but not human?
bullshite!
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:01 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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I've gotten to where I wear orange on my own private property because I have no idea if some bozo trespasser is on my propery with a high-powered rifle and a snoot full of liquor.
That's also the law in louisiana when walking to and from stands.
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