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Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:18 am to NC_Tigah
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Not true of course.
What power does the SG have?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:27 am to Jim Rockford
Pretty bush league of Obama not to consult the TD Political Board on the qualifications of this guy first.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:47 am to Zach
quote:The power of the pulpit first and foremost. A respected SG can hold sway over nearly any aspect USHealthcare. This fellow will have little of that. So in his case, his power per se will be relegated to oversight of military medical readiness.
What power does the SG have?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:52 am to NC_Tigah
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quote:
What power does the SG have?
The power of the pulpit first and foremost. A respected SG can hold sway over nearly any aspect USHealthcare. This fellow will have little of that. So in his case, his power per se will be relegated to oversight of military medical readiness.
If you put a gun to my head and asked me to name a prior surgeon general, the last one I could come up with is Joycelyn Elders.
The only other one I could think of is C. Everett Koop.
Can anyone name any others off the top of your heads?
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 10:54 am to NC_Tigah
Are you going to ignore the post in which I mentioned his qualifications or keep saying saying his only medical qualification to note is his completion of residency 8 years ago?
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:01 am to Y.A. Tittle
Novello, knew her thru contacts, unfortunately.
She was as bad as Koop was good.
Satcher and Carmona were good.
She was as bad as Koop was good.
Satcher and Carmona were good.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:02 am to NC_Tigah
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The power of the pulpit first and foremost
That's not power to forge legislation or determine how budgets are handled. Rush Limbaugh has more power of the pulpit than the SG. All the SG does is tell people 'don't smoke' 'don't get fat'. And no one listens. It's a meaningless position.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:09 am to cornhat
quote:Not worth addressing.
Are you going to ignore the post in which I mentioned his qualifications or keep saying saying his only medical qualification to note is his completion of residency 8 years ago?
You want me to add that the guy graduated in the top 25% of his medical school class. Hell, by that criterion, 1/4th of new residency grads should be qualified to step in immediately as USSG right there with him.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:19 am to NC_Tigah
Seems like a terrible appointment.
The guy in that post should be old enough to shave.
The guy in that post should be old enough to shave.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:24 am to NC_Tigah
That's awfully dismissive of his Yale and Harvard records, much less AOA. And 8 years post residency is not enough experience? WTF sort of criteria do you think a surgeon general must fit?
ETA: I guess people on this board thinks only 40+ are qualified to comment on basic medical conditions in the US
ETA: I guess people on this board thinks only 40+ are qualified to comment on basic medical conditions in the US
This post was edited on 12/16/14 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:31 am to cornhat
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I guess people on this board thinks only 40+ are qualified to comment on basic medical conditions in the US
yes.
I want the guy who sets the pace for medicine in this country to have practiced it for many many many years.
Someone who has served in the field.
There is a reason we don't let people under 35 run for president.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 11:45 am to asurob1
The surgeon general does not set the pace for medicine. The head of the NIH does vastly more important work than the surgeon general. The surgeon general talks about the general health concerns in America. They do not practice, they dont do research. They are figureheads.
You don't need 10+ years to know diabetes, heart disease and obesity is ruining the country.
And your example is not analogous. There is an age restriction on presidential candidates. There is none for surgeon general.
You don't need 10+ years to know diabetes, heart disease and obesity is ruining the country.
And your example is not analogous. There is an age restriction on presidential candidates. There is none for surgeon general.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:02 pm to cornhat
Correct. The position has no purpose. That's why we haven't missed having one for a year. The position should be abolished.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:06 pm to asurob1
quote:Why is that?
There is a reason we don't let people under 35 run for president.
Is it because they aren't qualified, lack experience, etc.?
If that's the case, we've done a pretty shitty job choosing people over 35 who fit those requirements.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:35 pm to cornhat
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They are figureheads.
So is the First Lady. It's not about having the power to create policy, it's the power to shape policy.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:41 pm to Jim Rockford
Hell yes! Another meaningless appointment that will have absolutely no affect on me.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 12:51 pm to Zach
quote:So IYO for example, Ebola was handled well?
That's why we haven't missed having one for a year
Look, you're correct that having this fellow in the position a year ago would have probably made no difference. He's likely going to functionally be an empty suit. Then again, we can speculate regarding hypothetical what-ifs all day long. There's no way to know.
We do have ongoing international military medical initiatives. Those would normally fall under the USSG. They are currently being overseen by the responsible branch Surgeon General, presumably the Army SG. As an aside, for the first time in US history that individual, the Surgeon General of the United States Army, is not a physician. Probably makes no difference either, eh? We should be fine winging it.
As you'd say, a US General in the medical corps is just a figurehead after all. Experience and expertise in any of those positions should be totally irrelevant. Certainly was true for the position of Commander-in-Chief.
Posted on 12/16/14 at 1:57 pm to NC_Tigah
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So IYO for example, Ebola was handled well?
The SG has nothing to do with Ebola or any disease. The SG has nothing to do with AIDS. Elders told people that the Pope created it. That was amusing. The reason Elders got the position was pay back for campaign work for Clinton back in Arkansas.
If you think the SG actually means something, list the best 5 we've ever had and the worst 5 we've ever had.
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