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Rambo first blood question

Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:27 pm
Posted by indytiger
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:27 pm
Why does the sheriff have it out for Rambo at the beginning? Is it bc Rambo is a Vietnam vet, or is it bc he's a long haired vagrant looking person? I've heard theories for both reasons.
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:41 pm to
Because He's a huge douche.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:43 pm to
Didn't he think Rambo was "disrespecting the flag" or something because he was wearing a ratty looking jacket with the flag on it? Obviously, combined with his look, he just mistook him for a hippie and even said later he wasn't aware that he was a war hero.

Plus, the sheriff told him to GTFO of town and then watched as Rambo metaphorically gave him the bird and turned back into town as soon as he drove away the first time.

The sheriff didn't have anything against vets. IIRC, he was a decorated one, too.

This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted by indytiger
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:57 pm to
It just confuses me bc back in the day vietnam vets were hated by a lot of folks. But then the sheriff mighta thought he was some hippie wearing a soldiers jacket. And then I also can't blame Rambo for feeling disrespected when all he wanted was a hot meal. He is the most decorated soldier of all time.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:13 pm to
It was because he looked like a bum.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:04 pm to
He didn't take kindly to the looks 'o him.
Posted by jmeng
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:12 pm to
Read somewhere (IMDB maybe) that the sheriff is a Korean War vet and has a chip on his shoulder since they were basically ignored. I think there's a scene where you can see his medals in his office.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:59 pm to
Power tripping small town cop and the apparent scumbag defied, even embarrassed him.
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:11 am to
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bc he's a long haired vagrant looking person
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:14 am to
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I think there's a scene where you can see his medals in his office.


There is, there is a plaque behind him and it has I think three metals including the purple heart and I think bronze star.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:27 am to
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bc he's a long haired vagrant looking person


I think he understood a slightly greater capacity for danger due to the Veteran thing - when you watch it closely, he thinks he's doing Rambo a solid - giving a little hop through the town. Smarter move would have been to just drive him to the next town and drop him off.

I bet Rambo wouldn't have walked back and would have eaten at the next town - Sheriff could've have spotted him a fiver to make sure.

But, no! frickin' Brian Dennehy had to be a bad cop.

I do think it was supposed to be symbolic of America's treatment of Vietnam vets - but I didn't detect any anti-veteran vibe from the sheriff - now the deputy in charge of getting him cleaned up - he was clearly taunting him with "soldier boy".



ETA: On a side note - Dennehy was a silent generation, but fairly late - born in 1938 (same as Pops Midnight) and a little too young to have actually been in the Korean War - he was also only 8 years older than Stallone. Stallone, being in the first boomer cohort, was the perfect age to have been in Vietnam - would have turned 19 the year heavy combat operations started (1965) and in his early/mid 20s at the peak of the fighting.

Dennehy enlisted in the USMC, serving 4 years fro 1959 to 1963. Stallone worked overseas, received student deferments and ultimately failed an Army physical. He was never drafted despite a high number. In fairness, he was flatfooted at 4 years of age (one of the reasons his mother put him in dance class) - and may never have been eligible to serve because of that.

In any event, vastly different IRL military experiences for the leading actors in this film.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 9:40 am
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:37 am to
First Blood is a Christmas movie right?

This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 9:39 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 9:39 am to
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First Blood is a Christmas movie right?


No - it's firearm/commando/Vietnam Veteran porn, just set near Christmas time.

The only presents he delivered were pain.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 2:11 pm to
Another great Brian Dennehy performance.
Right up there with his work as Wayne Gacy.
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 2:38 pm to
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bc he's a long haired vagrant looking person
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 2:44 pm to
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Another great Brian Dennehy performance.


I agree - Sly was all over the place on this one - Dennehy and Crenna delivered the crucial acting performances in this film.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6088 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 2:50 pm to
Yea, Crenna was great too.

"Here lies John Rambo, decorated Marine... killed for vagrancy in Jerkwater, USA."
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:09 pm to
The scene where Rambo is holed up in the tunnel, collecting himself fireside, and Troutman starts speaking to him over the radio is my favorite scene in that movie. Pretty intense in a cerebral way.

Also, the location they filmed this movie was perfect.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:12 pm to
The sheriff bet on Apollo Creed and he looked a lot like Rocky.
This post was edited on 12/13/14 at 4:13 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 12/13/14 at 4:33 pm to
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Power tripping small town cop

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