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New law in Illinois makes it illegal to film cops and allows wiretapping without
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:42 am
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:42 am
a warrant... Glad I don't live in Illinois.
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Yet while the average person’s rights seem to shrink under a proposal that is just as antiquated as the 1961 law it tries to replace — a law struck down as unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court — the power of government to operate without overview seems to grow.
This little nugget is also included in this legislation: With permission of a state’s attorney, not a judge, police could legally eavesdrop on individuals for up to 24 hours without a warrant while investigating such serious crimes as murder, sexual assault or kidnapping.
The unspoken danger in that is clear: Expanding police authority to listen in on conversations without a warrant — previously only allowed when there was a “dangerous situation” — is a power more likely to grow rather than be curtailed.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 8:50 am
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:45 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:47 am to NYNolaguy1
What, the land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:47 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:"fim"???
Illinois makes it illegal to fim cops
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:49 am to NYNolaguy1
Illinois is quickly becoming a shite hole
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:49 am to NYNolaguy1
Bout time
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:53 am to NYNolaguy1
very misleading title, proposal does not equal law
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:55 am to cave canem
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very misleading title, proposal does not equal law
It was passed by both houses in Illinois, and sits on the governors desk. Chances are he signs it.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:58 am to cave canem
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very misleading title, proposal does not equal law
does proposal = bill? Because it's a Bill right now and once a bill is signed........It's a law.
A proposal is a draft before it is a bill.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 8:59 am to whit
You all can give your rights to me if you don't want em.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:13 am to Pendulum
As a cop, I am by no means in favor of this. I jealously guard my constitutional rights. I don't need Big Brother holding more authority. If someone wants to waste battery power recording me in public, film away.*
*Please, just don't take away my ability to shoot dogs. That's all I ask.
*Please, just don't take away my ability to shoot dogs. That's all I ask.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:26 am to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:27 am to NYNolaguy1
No way that passes Constitutional muster.
Either provision.
Either provision.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:31 am to Ace Midnight
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No way that passes Constitutional muster. Either provision.
The last one got struck down too. They'll just pass a new one until it gets struck down again.... Years down the road. In the mean time it will be the law in Illinois. I don't think our govt was set up to operate this way.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:32 am to NYNolaguy1
Personally, I'm not extremely opposed to the cops listening in to me if they believe I am committing a crime. I hope that I never find myself in that sort of situation, but if I do, I hope that still have enough sense to use more covert means of communication anyway. So, like I always say, if you're not hiding anything, whats the big deal?
Now the idea of it being illegal to film cops is a pile of shite. If they are following the law, then the recording should only show legal activities, right? Should be able to film them for at least 24 hours without a permit, right?
Now the idea of it being illegal to film cops is a pile of shite. If they are following the law, then the recording should only show legal activities, right? Should be able to film them for at least 24 hours without a permit, right?
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:52 am to Boudreaux35
LULZ
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:54 am to NYNolaguy1
Will never withstand the first court challenge.
Posted on 12/12/14 at 9:56 am to cave canem
quote:proposal does equal unconstitutional, I hope.
very misleading title, proposal does not equal law
Posted on 12/12/14 at 10:00 am to Boudreaux35
quote:It's pretty easy and quick to get a judge to sign of on a wiretap if there is probable cause. If they don't even have that what reason would they really have to eavesdrop?
Personally, I'm not extremely opposed to the cops listening in to me if they believe I am committing a crime. I hope that I never find myself in that sort of situation, but if I do, I hope that still have enough sense to use more covert means of communication anyway. So, like I always say, if you're not hiding anything, whats the big deal?
quote:Should be able to record them anytime for as long as we would like. They are super-sensitive to cameras but they will just have to get used to it.
Now the idea of it being illegal to film cops is a pile of shite. If they are following the law, then the recording should only show legal activities, right? Should be able to film them for at least 24 hours without a permit, right?
Posted on 12/12/14 at 11:22 am to NYNolaguy1
Ah, Illinois - liberal paradise.
I bet this has police union support.
I bet this has police union support.
This post was edited on 12/12/14 at 11:23 am
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