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re: Jurgen believes Baby Brads should stay a CAM

Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:51 pm to
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Bradley's talk of "suffering" leading into the World Cup was borderline masochistic

that shite made no sense but everyone thought it was cool for some reason.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 5:54 pm to
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that shite made no sense but everyone thought it was cool for some reason.



He was referring to the practices regimen that they were going through in the lead up to the World Cup.
Posted by Stewie Griffin
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 6:11 pm to
I'd switch Cameron and Bradley but I like that diamond.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:08 pm to
They were so tough that our players were overworked to the point of injury, but we still lacked the necessary fitness.
Posted by Dijkstra
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 7:25 pm to
To be fair, it's widely agreed that playing in Brazil was absolutely ridiculous for everyone involved. These are some the best athletes in the world. If they're all talking about the difficulty of playing in that environment, there must be something to it. We also had the worst travel schedule possible.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:24 pm to
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Based on... ?


Best win streak in USMNT history.

Gold Cup

Qualification with match to spare

Got out of Group of Death with a slew of injuries

Rd of 16 finish, chance away from winning

That's what I'm basing it on. Klinsmann knows what he is doing. Until we get around to the tune up games ahead of competitive matches, worrying about what his lineup will be is silly.

As Aaron Rodgers said, R-E-L-A-X.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 8:27 pm
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:24 pm to
Even with the god awful travel schedule, we knew that going in and it seemed like we had more injuries than the other teams and lacked the fitness advantage we used to have.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 8:46 pm to
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I'm not sure that I will ever get over Donovan being left off that roster. He could have helped us in a massive way, and I have to wonder if things might have been different if we had had those moments of LD magic that he's so known for.


I've come to terms with the fact that - for multiple reasons - I will never get over it.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 9:26 pm to
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Gold Cup

Qualification with match to spare

Rd of 16 finish, chance away from winning


Done with Bob as well.


quote:

As Aaron Rodgers said, R-E-L-A-X.



I'm perfectly calm.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:11 pm to
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Done with Bob as well.


So, seeing as I have more things on my list that you didn't mention. Wouldn't you say that is, whats the word, improvement?
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:14 pm to
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So, seeing as I have more things on my list that you didn't mention. Wouldn't you say that is, whats the word, improvement?



Ok, well if you want to be pedantic and list every accomplishment, does Jurgen have a win over a team in a FIFA tournament that was #1 in the world?

Let me be clear, I think Jurgen is an improvement over Bob, but it's marginal at best.

ETA: By your logic, Bruce > JK (which may be true) because he took US to the quarters in the group of death.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Let me be clear, I think Jurgen is an improvement over Bob, but it's marginal at best.


Why do you think this? I'm genuinely curious.

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By your logic, Bruce > JK (which may be true) because he took US to the quarters in the group of death.


Cant argue this point, remains to be seen.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:31 pm to
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Why do you think this? I'm genuinely curious.


We're still largely a defend and counter team. Only difference is that the player pool is better.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:35 pm to
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We're still largely a defend and counter team


That's how the international game is played.



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Only difference is that the player pool is better.


That makes Jurgen more than marginally better.

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70859 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:36 pm to
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That's how the international game is played.


That's fine, but Jurgen has claimed from the very beginning how he wants the US to be more proactive tactically. Hasn't really happened.

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That makes Jurgen more than marginally better.



LOL Wut???

The pool was getting deeper regardless of the coach.
Posted by Harry Pitts
Salt Lake City
Member since Jul 2011
1279 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:50 pm to
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That's fine, but Jurgen has claimed from the very beginning how he wants the US to be more proactive tactically.


Being proactive tactically and going balls to the wall attacking (which is what I assume you are interpreting "proactive tactically as) are two different things.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70859 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 10:52 pm to
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Being proactive tactically and going balls to the wall attacking (which is what I assume you are interpreting "proactive tactically as) are two different things.



I'm assuming no such thing. In your opinion, how has Jurgen been so much better than Bob?
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:12 pm to
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LOL Wut???

The pool was getting deeper regardless of the coach.


To be fair, he gave Yedlin a shot, and I don't think Fabian, JAB, and Mix are here without Jurgen.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70859 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:20 pm to
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To be fair, he gave Yedlin a shot, and I don't think Fabian, JAB, and Mix are here without Jurgen.


How so?

Dual nationals have been a thing for US soccer for a long time. Lets not forget that Bob brought in Jermaine and Timmy Chandler.

Mix was going to end up in the US regardless. My opinion, of course, but he always seemed to identify as an American and Norway was never going to make the World Cup.

As for Yedlin, are you saying he wouldn't have played for the USMNT unless Jurgen was the coach?
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28429 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 11:32 pm to
Actually Mix has said on multiple occasions that he feels equally Norwegian and American, and that his decision was purely based on who approached him first for a senior call up.

Also, I don't think Bob would have brought Yedlin to Brazil. But then again he probably would have brought Donovan.
This post was edited on 12/11/14 at 11:33 pm
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