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Grand Jury Doesn't Indict Cops who kill man with down syndrome
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/8/14 at 9:56 am
for refusing to leave a movie theater.
Basically looks like Eric Garner but the man in question just wanted to stay at the movie theater and watch zero dark thirty again.
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Basically looks like Eric Garner but the man in question just wanted to stay at the movie theater and watch zero dark thirty again.
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This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 12:00 pm
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Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:00 am to Hawkeye95
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They also added that having Down Syndrome made him more susceptible to death, but they did not explain how.
geeze louise
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:00 am to Hawkeye95
It really makes me wonder where they pull these GJ members from, because It seems like the majority of this board would vote to return a bill almost every time.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:00 am to FalseProphet
i'm sure prosecutors wait until they have the right GJs for these cases
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:08 am to SlowFlowPro
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i'm sure prosecutors wait until they have the right GJs for these cases
In the Garner case the GJ was already in session, from what I read.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:10 am to Homesick Tiger
oh i meant the non-media driven cases. ferguson and garner were already in session
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:11 am to Hawkeye95
What kind of training do these dopey fricking policemen receive? It needs an overhaul. And do GJ instructions now include the admonition that a cop is justified in doing whatever the frick he wants if a suspect resists in any way?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:16 am to Navytiger74
off-topic (sort of):
and what is wrong with this world that a) the people running the theater would call the fricking cops on a DS kid who wants to watch the movie again, and b) that the cops would even give the theater the time of day on such a call.
If i were a cop called to deal with that and arrived to see that kid, i'd say, "Enjoy the show, kid," and then find something to cite the theater owner for.
and what is wrong with this world that a) the people running the theater would call the fricking cops on a DS kid who wants to watch the movie again, and b) that the cops would even give the theater the time of day on such a call.
If i were a cop called to deal with that and arrived to see that kid, i'd say, "Enjoy the show, kid," and then find something to cite the theater owner for.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:17 am to Hawkeye95
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The killing happened when cops arrived to force Saylor to leave a movie theater after he wanted to see “Zero Dark Thirty” a second time.
Police justified their killing by explaining that Saylor verbally and physically resisted their attempts to remove him from the theater.
WTF...could they not see that this guy had downs:
That he was acting like a child wanting to see the movie a second time? How about calling his parents or caretakers? Why not approach the situation as if he were a child (but not like the cops in Cleveland - that ends horribly too)?
Something is broken in our police forces...they need to take a look at themselves and quit worrying about what some football players do before a game.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:18 am to McLemore
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and what is wrong with this world that a) the people running the theater would call the fricking cops on a DS kid who wants to watch the movie again, and b) that the cops would even give the theater the time of day on such a call.
And definitely this, too. Why not even just let the downs kid watch the movie a second time?
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:19 am to cwill
speaks volumes about the cops if they can't tell that that man has downs.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:20 am to McLemore
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and what is wrong with this world that a) the people running the theater would call the fricking cops on a DS kid who wants to watch the movie again,
yeah seriously frick that manager. i hope he/she is suffering a severe existential/moral crisis
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:23 am to Hawkeye95
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As with all grand juries, the proceedings were held in secrecy.
Of course. It gives the DA and the police who are in cahoots plausible deniability
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:52 am to Hawkeye95
This is the type of case we should be protesting over. This shite enrages me...pos cops.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 10:57 am to Homesick Tiger
quote:Could you have more than one grand jury convened at a time? Perhaps you dismiss the ones who don't do as you say early and keep the "good ones" on longer?
In the Garner case the GJ was already in session, from what I read.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:00 am to Hawkeye95
Is this shite real?
ETA: Nvm. Holy shite it is.
ETA: Nvm. Holy shite it is.
This post was edited on 12/8/14 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:12 am to mmcgrath
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Could you have more than one grand jury convened at a time? Perhaps you dismiss the ones who don't do as you say early and keep the "good ones" on longer?
Thanks for thinking I'm smarter than Google.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:13 am to deltaland
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This is the type of case we should be protesting over. This shite enrages me
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:14 am to McLemore
quote:The 3 cops were working (off duty) as security for the mall. It's not like the manager called 911. But in any event it was the cops' decisions that led to his death.
off-topic (sort of):
and what is wrong with this world that a) the people running the theater would call the fricking cops on a DS kid who wants to watch the movie again, and b) that the cops would even give the theater the time of day on such a call.
If i were a cop called to deal with that and arrived to see that kid, i'd say, "Enjoy the show, kid," and then find something to cite the theater owner for.
Posted on 12/8/14 at 11:18 am to Hawkeye95
More about the altercation here. The cops were off duty and not in uniform. It's very possible the kid didn't even know who they were. And oh yeah, he idolized law enforcement.
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“Ethan was developmentally disabled, not a criminal,” said Joseph Espo, a lawyer who spoke on behalf of Saylor’s parents, Patti and Ron Saylor. “He was entranced by police and police departments and liked communicating with them to the extent that, if there was ever a complaint, it was that he’d call so they could come to the house so he could talk to them.”
Saylor’s mother took cookies to the sheriff’s office at the end of last year to thank the deputies for all the unnecessary trips they made to the house, Espo said.
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