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Fishfighter river run
Posted on 12/7/14 at 7:40 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 7:40 am
Okay, tell me if I am crazy!!
I used google earth and checked out the Mississippi River north of Baton Rouge. It looks like you could put in at Morganza and make your way to Profit Island. That would be a great place to camp for the evening. Your history lesson follows:
Commander D. McN. Fairfax,
U. S. S. Cayuga, Donaldsonville.
Report of Lieutenant-Commander Weaver, U. S. Navy, commanding U. S. S. Winona, regarding an engagement with Confederate battery off Profit Island.
U. S. Gunboat Winona, Mississippi River, December 14, 1862.
>sir: I have to report that while this vessel was at anchor near the Essex, off the upper end of Profit Island, just at early daylight, a rebel battery ot ficldpieces opened fire on her. We at once returned their fire with grape, canister, and shrapnel, but they had taken up such a position during the night without being observed that they were enabled to rake the vessel repeatedly without our being able to return an effective fire. I attempted to heave up the anchor, only having a short scope of chain out, but the enemy's fire was so heavy and well directed that I was obliged to slip the chain. We steamed up toward the Essex, and in doing so the pilots ran the vessel aground, but fortunately we backed off and made fast to the starboaid side of the Essex, when both vessels backed down the river. During the engagement this vessel was struck twenty-seven times in the hull, spars, and rigging, many of the shot cutting her up badly. The enemy not noticing the Essex, directed his whole fire at us.
I regret to say that Acting Master's Mate David Vincent was mortally wounded, and has since died. On my way down the river, when just below Profit Island, a battalion of infantry opened fire on us from the east bank, to which we replied with grape, canister, and shrapnel, but owing to the protection the levee afforded them, with very little effect, although our firing was rapid and well directed.
During the engagements we expended fi2 rounds of grape, canister, and shrapnel.
In conclusion, I have to state that during the fight the officers and men exhibited that coolness, courage, and zeal which I have every reason to expect from them.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
A. W. Weaver, Lieutenant-Commander.
There may be a hundred reasons why this is not a good idea, I just can't think of one, besides our pirouge are just not designed for this type of water.
It would be awesome to be able to make a run like this with fellow builders I met at the second build and hopefully additional people from the first build.
What say you?
I used google earth and checked out the Mississippi River north of Baton Rouge. It looks like you could put in at Morganza and make your way to Profit Island. That would be a great place to camp for the evening. Your history lesson follows:
Commander D. McN. Fairfax,
U. S. S. Cayuga, Donaldsonville.
Report of Lieutenant-Commander Weaver, U. S. Navy, commanding U. S. S. Winona, regarding an engagement with Confederate battery off Profit Island.
U. S. Gunboat Winona, Mississippi River, December 14, 1862.
>sir: I have to report that while this vessel was at anchor near the Essex, off the upper end of Profit Island, just at early daylight, a rebel battery ot ficldpieces opened fire on her. We at once returned their fire with grape, canister, and shrapnel, but they had taken up such a position during the night without being observed that they were enabled to rake the vessel repeatedly without our being able to return an effective fire. I attempted to heave up the anchor, only having a short scope of chain out, but the enemy's fire was so heavy and well directed that I was obliged to slip the chain. We steamed up toward the Essex, and in doing so the pilots ran the vessel aground, but fortunately we backed off and made fast to the starboaid side of the Essex, when both vessels backed down the river. During the engagement this vessel was struck twenty-seven times in the hull, spars, and rigging, many of the shot cutting her up badly. The enemy not noticing the Essex, directed his whole fire at us.
I regret to say that Acting Master's Mate David Vincent was mortally wounded, and has since died. On my way down the river, when just below Profit Island, a battalion of infantry opened fire on us from the east bank, to which we replied with grape, canister, and shrapnel, but owing to the protection the levee afforded them, with very little effect, although our firing was rapid and well directed.
During the engagements we expended fi2 rounds of grape, canister, and shrapnel.
In conclusion, I have to state that during the fight the officers and men exhibited that coolness, courage, and zeal which I have every reason to expect from them.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
A. W. Weaver, Lieutenant-Commander.
There may be a hundred reasons why this is not a good idea, I just can't think of one, besides our pirouge are just not designed for this type of water.
It would be awesome to be able to make a run like this with fellow builders I met at the second build and hopefully additional people from the first build.
What say you?
Posted on 12/7/14 at 7:55 am to roobedoo
Sounds like a fun trip, assuming that everyone survives....
The biggest problem i see is that profit island is private land.
The biggest problem i see is that profit island is private land.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 8:06 am to lsufishnhunt
Yeah I saw that it was not public land. If there is interest and this is feasible we can seek permission to spend 1 night.
I read a couple of blogs where people have taken a canoe from Minnesota to the Gulf. I realize that a canoe is a different boat and better suited for this.
Was just wondering the feasibility in a pirouge.
Thanks
I read a couple of blogs where people have taken a canoe from Minnesota to the Gulf. I realize that a canoe is a different boat and better suited for this.
Was just wondering the feasibility in a pirouge.
Thanks
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:07 am to roobedoo
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Was just wondering the feasibility in a pirouge.
It could be done, but I would wait to summer time just in case a tug swamps you. Besides, they hunt that island. You could launch at the old New Roads ferry landing. From there down river is about 7-8 miles. Problem with that is I wouldn't leave a truck there overnight.
Oh, I would wait till after the spring rise for sure.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:13 am to roobedoo
You're talking about taking a pirouge down the Mississippi River? What could possibly go wrong?
At least have some friends go along in real boats to pluck you from the water after you go for a swim.
At least have some friends go along in real boats to pluck you from the water after you go for a swim.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 9:52 am to DownSouthDave
Oh, I never said nothing could go wrong!! I respect the power of that river and many terrible things could go wrong.
I was thinking about summer time and exiting at Baton Rouge to catch a baseball game.
My wife could drop me wherever and pickup in Baton Rouge.
It looks like Hwy 327 is Skip Bertman drive and it goes straight to the levee with vehicle access.
Just tossing it around. Still trying to determine if it is a foolish consideration. It is certainly intriguing.
I was thinking about summer time and exiting at Baton Rouge to catch a baseball game.
My wife could drop me wherever and pickup in Baton Rouge.
It looks like Hwy 327 is Skip Bertman drive and it goes straight to the levee with vehicle access.
Just tossing it around. Still trying to determine if it is a foolish consideration. It is certainly intriguing.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:39 am to roobedoo
Pirogue: too easy to swamp. Lots of current and commercial traffic throwing wakes and waves everywhere.
My dad has gone from Memphis to Vicksburg and Vicksburg to Natchez in a kayak. There were others with him and a support boat with a motor. They camped on sandbars. They stuck close to the bank, and took lots of precautions.
My dad has gone from Memphis to Vicksburg and Vicksburg to Natchez in a kayak. There were others with him and a support boat with a motor. They camped on sandbars. They stuck close to the bank, and took lots of precautions.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 10:59 am to Mung
Mount a go pro on your vessel so we can see the barges coming at you that are out of control on the bends in the river.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:22 am to Sparkplug#1
I had ran trotlines out of my pirogue in the river many times. A lot depends if you know what you doing. Me, it wouldn't phase me to do it to this day. Wick's picture is south of the old Mississippi river bridge. Why I know? There is a ship in the mix.
To do a trip, one would have to plan around the weather for sure. Also, one has to watch for up current tug boats. Those are the ones that kick up one hell of a wake. I good hand help VHF radio would be a big plus that way one can contact and work boats in there area.
OP, there is a public landing at the foot of the I10 Mississippi river bridge on the BR south side.
To do a trip, one would have to plan around the weather for sure. Also, one has to watch for up current tug boats. Those are the ones that kick up one hell of a wake. I good hand help VHF radio would be a big plus that way one can contact and work boats in there area.
OP, there is a public landing at the foot of the I10 Mississippi river bridge on the BR south side.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:37 am to fishfighter
Unless you have AIS I doubt you will get any tugs that are facing you, to answer on a VHF, unless you know local river landmark lingo info. Besides that, those bozos could be on 16, 13 or 67. I hate navigating the river and dealing with those idiots. I know some are great, but most I deal with are arrogant and think they own the river. Hugging the bank could be safe if the current doesn't grab you.
Pretty impressive you've ran the river in a pirogue, Fish. Didn't Long put that bridge up to stop all large ships from offloading/loading anywhere other than LA? I thought I remember reading that once.
Pretty impressive you've ran the river in a pirogue, Fish. Didn't Long put that bridge up to stop all large ships from offloading/loading anywhere other than LA? I thought I remember reading that once.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:39 am to Sparkplug#1
I've heard that. Typical louisiana
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:42 am to Sparkplug#1
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Besides that, those bozos could be on 16, 13 or 67
They suppose to watch 16 at all times when under way.
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Didn't Long put that bridge up to stop all large ships from offloading/loading anywhere other than LA? I thought I remember reading that once.
Yep. Smart man even though he was a crook.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 11:58 am to fishfighter
On the lower Miss they are supposed to monitor 67 and 16, but some tugs only have one radio.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:13 pm to Sparkplug#1
Putting a PIROUGE in the river when it's at the level its at now is more than do able. October next year would likeley be a good time unless the river is low earlier but then its hot as hell camping out there.
Would need a follow boat to do it IMO and be safe.
Would need a follow boat to do it IMO and be safe.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:58 pm to Da Hammer
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Would need a follow boat to do it IMO and be safe.
Got the boat. Sure as hell not going to paddle all that way.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:03 pm to fishfighter
I read a few blogs where guys covered 30 miles in a day.
The current should push you pretty good so I am not sure how much paddling is required. It certainly will depend on the flow at the time.
My initial thought was for a get together of the pirouge builders to make some kinda run.
Maybe this is not a good idea.
The current should push you pretty good so I am not sure how much paddling is required. It certainly will depend on the flow at the time.
My initial thought was for a get together of the pirouge builders to make some kinda run.
Maybe this is not a good idea.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:46 pm to roobedoo
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Still trying to determine if it is a foolish consideration.
Meet yall at the drop-off & the pickup spots.
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Long
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