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Battle of the five armies reviews coming out: more of the same

Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:17 am
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18568 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:17 am
Too much cgi, great acting, good battles, suffers significant pacing issues.
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35272 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:22 am to
If it has an actual ending, it couldn't possibly be worse than the the last one.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51676 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 1:37 am to
Par the course
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
2082 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 5:20 am to
Viggo Mortensen said PJ wasn't able to use as much cgi in FOTR and instead focused more on character development and interaction, which he preferred rather than a cgi extravaganza. He shot them all at once but the last two films were a mess and they had to do massive amounts of reshoots to complete it. During this process, after which the first film was both critically and commercially successful, they were granted a bigger budget for the reshoots which included much more cgi than originally planned. PJ loves technology and couldn't help himself, though I thought the cgi served to advance the story well and didn't detract from it. The Hobbit trilogy, however, has gotten out of control.

It's really sad to me though, as LOTR is my favorite film series and I had eagerly anticipated these movies for nearly a decade, searching for any updates on the delayed production and being very excited when I read that it was finally going to happen. The movies, while ok-good at times, aren't close to the same level of quality of lotr. I didn't expect it to be quite the same, but with the same screenwriters and production team along with PJ, I did expect better than this. It's very disappointing.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 5:23 am
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30578 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:07 am to
Yea honestly these movies aren't perfect. The subject matter almost requires more CGI than the LOTR trilogy did. Smaug would be difficult to replicate and still use the hobbits in the same shots, purely based on size and intricate detail. Though it does seem every character has gotten their own CGI makeover as well. When I watch these movies I consider the fact that CGI makes them more bright and colorful, which describes the nature of the book the hobbit. It was much more of a bright and good spirited book than the LOTR were. The real action of the LOTR had a much darker colder more realistic feel to them. That seems to be the idea to me behind the extra CGI here. These movies aren't LOTR and they really shouldn't be compared to them
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:29 am to
quote:

suffers significant pacing issues.
translation: more walking
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:53 am to
this guy seems to really like it

LINK


an hour long battle scene does sound excessive though
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18411 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:55 am to
More of the last two?

Great. I loved them.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
44788 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:03 am to
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More of the last two?

Great. I loved them.




Same. I've enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy more than TLOTR trilogy.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:03 am to
prediction of how fans will react

Tolkien nuts. Hate it for the likely departures from the book.
LOTR movie nuts, love it no matter how bad of reviews it gets.
Standard movie goers, enjoy it not the best movie in the PJ series. Maybe better than the second but worse than the first.
Critics decent with issues.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Same. I've enjoyed the Hobbit trilogy more than TLOTR trilogy.



LOTR trilogy was better for me. But it's hard to compare with only three movies. I enjoyed the hobbit but so far it's not as good as the LOTR trilogy.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:05 am to
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Standard movie goers, enjoy it not the best movie in the PJ series. Maybe better than the second but worse than the first.
i'd fit in this category. are you referring to just the hobbit series? I enjoyed the 2nd one immensely more than the first
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
22739 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:14 am to
I don't know about yall, but my brain started to shut down towards the end of the last Hobbit movie.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:14 am to
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i'd fit in this category. are you referring to just the hobbit series? I enjoyed the 2nd one immensely more than the first



yes I am talking about the hobbit series. For me I liked the 1st better than the 2nd.

It probably didn't help that there was someone in the first group who complained about the movie the entire way back from the movie.

I fit kinda in the first and kinda in the second, so I've enjoyed all of the movies and I own all of the extended versions, but I don't love it no matter the reviews.

Note: I thought the 2nd was better on a second viewing.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:21 am to
the first hobbit movie was one of the very few movies I ever contemplated walking out of. I was constantly checking the time hoping it was almost over. it drug on forever
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
35272 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

an hour long battle scene does sound excessive though
Better than walking.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56011 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:27 am to
maybe I'm wrong about my prediction, who knows.

I'm actually thinking the 3rd will be the best, with all of the fighting. Those were my favorite parts of the LOTR trilogy.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:28 am to
Movies like LOTR, Hobbit, Star Wars, etc, aka massive world trilogy fantasy stories, I will never read critic bullshite. It's just people shitting on things they wish were better.

Too much CGI!!!

You're right we should've genetically engineered walking trees, and Massive battle robots, and elephant like battle riders and had them in an actual battle.

Dumbasses.



Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Too much cgi,


Even though I enjoyed the film, the first one left this impression with me - the extended cave battle was particularly offensive, bordering on becoming a parody of itself. Looks like he has doubled down on the battle scene in this film.

I never watched Smaug - I guess because I read The Hobbit in middle school and LOTR in high school, 30+ years ago, the stories weren't new to me - the LOTR films were though.
Posted by Fearthehat0307
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2007
65256 posts
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:30 am to
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we should've genetically engineered walking trees, and Massive battle robots, and elephant like battle riders and had them in an actual battle.
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