re: Video of the 12 y/o shot by cops last weekend

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Honestly though they could have easily parked a safe distance and used the cop car PA system or a loudspeaker and asked the kid to follow his orders if he did not comply then maybe force should have been used. Different story if night but in plain daylight. This should have been handled differently.

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Completely agree about the pulling up close part. The kid still pulled what appeared to be a gun on them, unfortunately.

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It is. Did the cop hear it?

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For now, the cops say they did not. We will see as the case unfolds. Sometimes they lie to cover their asses. Like they might say "I told him 3 times to drop his weapon." And then when the video comes out, it might be really clear they didn't do that at all.

I would be adamant, too, after the police department's lawyer advised me how many millions that piece of information would cost the department.

Ok. Wasn't sure that the dispatcher was recorded. Thanks.

Next question. They told him to "drop the weapon" and it's in his waist at this time? How do you drop it without pulling it out?

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But the press conference said he said it. Pretty sure. Will rewatch.

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Yea he did in the press conference. I'm calling bullshite on it. That may come back to bite him in the arse.

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Honestly though they could have easily parked a safe distance and used the cop car PA system or a loudspeaker and asked the kid to follow his orders if he did not comply then maybe force should have been used. Different story if night but in plain daylight. This should have been handled differently.

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No no no then you have a person with a gun running away wanting to be a hero & start shooting people you don't know if it's a real gun you have to assess and defuse & secure the situation as quickly as possible. they could have parked 1000 ft away & they could have put a sharpshooter on a rooftop & when the kid pulled out the gun & pointed at people like he was doing then the sharpshooter would have put a 308 in his chest or head & he would still be dead.
Night vs day yeah big diff daytime you have a hell of a lot of more potential victims out & about. The 911 caller should have went & took the gun away coward.
It's easy to sit here & be the armchair qb. The scenarios you people are coming up with are the same as the idiots in Cleveland & ferguson it's based on after the fact you have all the information. Yes the caller said it my be a toy 50:50 not good odds Russian roulett is 1:6 which game will you play? That cop had no idea what he was facing they blew in there with disregard for their lives to quell a dangerous situation.
Remember columbine? How long did those police wait? it was over 4 hours till they got to the last dead kids, those 2 nut jobs walked around killing people for an hour before they killed themselves. This 12 yo kid could have become an active shooter

Next you will see thugs paint the ends of their glocks with orange paint & the idiots of the world will say it's ok folks it's just a toy! Then BANG! One more dead son father mother brother etc..
All life is valuable was this handled perfectly no there is a dead kid not the outcome anyone wants but given the circumstances you cannot risk a crazed gunman with a death wish running around on a Saturday popping people in Cleveland.

Dudes parents should have taught him not to go around pointing guns at people. Especially cops.

Cop was right in my opinion.

Another idiot cop enabler.

Haven't completely made up mind on this one yet BUT for those decrying the time between arrival and shooting:

You do understand that the video is time lapse? Right? It isn't an accurate time representation of what happened. They need to determine the time between clips and slow it down to the appropriate speed. It will just be clips but at least then you can get a feel for the speed of the event.