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re: Video of the 12 y/o shot by cops last weekend
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:01 am to abellsujr
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:01 am to abellsujr
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That looks just like a real gun. A "toy" pellet gun? Are pellet guns toys? I'm confused.
Pellet guns were toys when I was a kid. I had one that looked just like a 9mm. Never had an orange tip for me to remove.
I knew not to carry it to school, but I carried it a lot of other places like baseball parks, playgrounds, in the woods and I walked down the street with it.
Never considered a cop might shoot me dead because a concerned citizen called in about me having a gun.
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:04 am to abellsujr
Maybe it's where people are from. In rural Mississippi that's a toy.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:07 am to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:I wouldn't think a 12 year old would consider the possibility of being killed. This is a sad situation, but damn that gun looks real. The 911 operator should have relayed the information about the caller saying it was probably fake, but what if the caller was wrong? What if it was a real gun? Is the cop suppose to let someone point a gun at them?
Never considered a cop might shoot me dead because a concerned citizen called in about me having a gun.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 1:08 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:11 am to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:Did you stand on a sidewalk acting gangsta, pull it out of your pants and point it to strangers?
Pellet guns were toys when I was a kid. I had one that looked just like a 9mm.
Never considered a cop might shoot me dead because a concerned citizen called in about me having a gun.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:32 am to HMTVBrian2
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At the same time I think we have to realize that racial prejudice is not always a conscious decision. The fact that it was a black kid probably did factor into it even if it was only a subconscious perception based on stereotype, that cop's personal experiences and feelings, etc.
This board will never admit this. They only judge facts, and they are unbiased robots that only judge actions and have no preconceived judgements about people.
It's so asisine of them.
I've been saying it throughout all of these shootings. Our implicit and explicit perceptions and attitudes About people govern our world, and play a big role in how we treat others. If we perceive others to be "less than", "criminal", etc, then we will most likely as so.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 1:36 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:34 am to Lord of The Vaught
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Maybe it's where people are from. In rural Mississippi that's a toy.
It's a toy when a white kid has it. Maybe?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:36 am to Geauxtiga
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Did you stand on a sidewalk acting gangsta, pull it out of your pants and point it to strangers?
We would go to the school in Burke Centre, Virginia and 20 of us would run around on top of the school having "wars." I had an "M-16." It made a cool sound when you pulled the trigger.
But it was a white suburb. So... No one even called the cops.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 1:39 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:38 am to the808bass
This is a very sad situation. I wish this would have been the Michael Brown case. But I'll wait for more details to come out to pass before j pass more judgement
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:39 am to the808bass
quote:Did you ever pull it on a cop? Did you ever go up to random strangers who didn't know it was fake and point it at them?
We would go to the school in Burke Lake. Virginia and 20 of us would run around on top of the school having "wars." I had an "M-16.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:42 am to StrongSafety
quote:There may not be anymore details. We have video. People are going to see what they want to see and decide for themselves. There will be discrepancies in what people see.
This is a very sad situation. I wish this would have been the Michael Brown case. But I'll wait for more details to come out to pass before j pass more judgement
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 1:43 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:44 am to abellsujr
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Did you ever pull it on a cop? Did you ever go up to random strangers who didn't know it was fake and point it at them?
No.
Yea. I guess. There were always people around when we were playing war. Walking trails, bike paths and so on and so forth. Police never were called on us.
But that was back before everyone lost their mind watching 24 hour news and we didn't see a bogeyman in every public situation.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 1:59 am to StrongSafety
Lesson to learn from this- if you pull a gun (real or fake) on a cop, you're gonna get shot.
Just like if you rob a liquor store and then choose to fight the police officer called in to respond, you're gonna get shot
Why people 1. Don't already know these things and 2. Try to blame the police for them is beyond me
Just like if you rob a liquor store and then choose to fight the police officer called in to respond, you're gonna get shot
Why people 1. Don't already know these things and 2. Try to blame the police for them is beyond me
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:06 am to Cockopotamus
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Lesson to learn from this- if you pull a gun (real or fake) on a cop, you're gonna get shot. Just like if you rob a liquor store and then choose to fight the police officer called in to respond, you're gonna get shot Why people 1. Don't already know these things and 2. Try to blame the police for them is beyond me
Yes. Good post. Police shoot almost as many people holding BB/pellet guns in a year as police are shot by criminals. Excellent point to bring up.
Also, I'd like to point out that if you have a loved one who is mentally unstable, do not call the police then either. They will kill their arse. And don't blame police. Sometimes to save a crazy person, you have to kill their arse.
Also, if you have an issue with a dog, do not call the police. They will kill their arse.
In short, when things die down and you need to file an insurance report, then and only then should you call the police.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:08 am to PuntBamaPunt
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The shooting was captured on surveillance video, but authorities speaking at a news conference on Monday said they didn’t know when the footage would be released to the public. They also disclosed that a Cleveland grand jury will decide whether or not to indict the police officer who fatally shot Rice.
LINK
Really? We're going to go through this shite again? Just another excuse for them to loot and destroy.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:09 am to Sleazy E
So you're ok with this already?
Is there any hypothetical situation where the use of police force could be inappropriate?
Is there any hypothetical situation where the use of police force could be inappropriate?
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:13 am to Sleazy E
quote:Protesting is fine, looting and setting things on fire is not.
Really? We're going to go through this shite again? Just another excuse for them to loot and destroy.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:13 am to the808bass
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Police shoot almost as many people holding BB/pellet guns in a year as police are shot by criminals
Link?
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Also, I'd like to point out that if you have a loved one who is mentally unstable, do not call the police then either. They will kill their arse. And don't blame police. Sometimes to save a crazy person, you have to kill their arse.
I'd assume you'd call for an ambulance first?
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Also, if you have an issue with a dog, do not call the police. They will kill their arse.
If my neighbor's dog keep shitting on my lawn I'll have to try this one out
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In short, when things die down and you need to file an insurance report, then and only then should you call the police.
You don't call the police to file an insurance report silly goose. You call the insurance company
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:19 am to the808bass
quote:Yeah well when I went to school and we got mad at someone we could say, "I'm gonna kill you" and not have the cops called in too.
We would go to the school in Burke Centre, Virginia and 20 of us would run around on top of the school having "wars." I had an "M-16." It made a cool sound when you pulled the trigger.
But it was a white suburb. So... No one even called the cops.
Course back then queers didn't walk the streets protesting and asking for weddings either.
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 2:20 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:21 am to Geauxtiga
quote:You can't even get in a fight at school anymore without the cops being called. shite, they're on school grounds already.
Yeah well when I went to school and we got mad at someone we could say, "I'm gonna kill you" and not have the cops called in too.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 2:24 am to abellsujr
A guy in high school got suspended (2003) for aiming their finger, pointing and making a gun sound at another student
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