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re: "Sadly, Obama will never face any consequences for this..."
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:08 pm to Roger Klarvin
General dereliction of duty for starters.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:19 pm to TrueTiger
Every opposing party could have argued that regarding every president since forever.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:20 pm to TrueTiger
Basically, if the democrats didn't have grounds to impeach Bush then the republicans have no grounds to impeach Obama.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
They know no consequences will come from any of these fake scandals. They also think they'll lose elections.
Republicans are generally wrong on things, and losers, and it shows in the way they talk. They hate the things he does, but know he didn't do anything illegal. Still, they need to believe he did something illegal, so they say things like "he's going to get away with it", when what they mean is, "there's nothing to charge him with".
Same thing with the voter fraud. They're usually pretty sure they're going to lose elections, so they start whining about voter fraud before every election to hedge their bets.
Republicans are generally wrong on things, and losers, and it shows in the way they talk. They hate the things he does, but know he didn't do anything illegal. Still, they need to believe he did something illegal, so they say things like "he's going to get away with it", when what they mean is, "there's nothing to charge him with".
Same thing with the voter fraud. They're usually pretty sure they're going to lose elections, so they start whining about voter fraud before every election to hedge their bets.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
Impeachment is all about political will. Not statutes.
And you are correct, neither the Dems during Bush nor the Pubs now, have enough of it.
And you are correct, neither the Dems during Bush nor the Pubs now, have enough of it.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:38 pm to FT
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Republicans are generally wrong on things, and losers, and it shows in the way they talk.
Nah, at least not anymore so than democrats.
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They hate the things he does, but know he didn't do anything illegal. Still, they need to believe he did something illegal, so they say things like "he's going to get away with it", when what they mean is, "there's nothing to charge him with".
The democrats did the EXACT same thing with Bush.
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Same thing with the voter fraud. They're usually pretty sure they're going to lose elections, so they start whining about voter fraud before every election to hedge their bets.
I don't think Ive ever heard an intelligent republican say they lost an election because of voter fraud. They just don't like the idea of it.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:49 pm to FT
I don't know enough about his EO and the law to know if he did anything illegal or not. I do know that he has damaged the Democratic party as much if not worse than Carter did.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If it was as blatantly illegal as you claim, Congress would already be drafting articles of impeachment. Despite what many here seem to believe, the president WOULD NOT simply get away with literally committing what amounts to a federal offense.
Obama himself said numerous times that he couldn't legally do what he did so how do you square that?
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:57 pm to Crimson1st
Obama was wrong, per usual.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:58 pm to Crimson1st
Or perhaps what he wanted to do at first was far more ambitious than what he actually did.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:00 pm to FT
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They know no consequences will come from any of these fake scandals
So you really believe this? There is a dead hero on the Texas border and four in Benghazi who would just love to have the opportunity to debate you...
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Or perhaps what he wanted to do at first was far more ambitious than what he actually did.
Ok, however you said what he did was legal at first in retort to another poster's claim that it was illegal until I pointed out what he said himself of his own actions. Now you don't quite sound so sure of yourself...hmm
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:14 pm to Crimson1st
What he did WAS legal. What he wanted to do when he made his comments may or may not have been, but if it was he toned it down before making a move.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If there were Senate Democrats that actually had any principles, they'd support removal.
On what grounds?
Specifics, please
Violating his oath of office by refusing to enforce laws he doesnt like.
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:34 pm to FT
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Republicans are generally wrong on things, and losers,
Might want to re-check the scoreboard
Posted on 11/23/14 at 12:45 am to Radiojones
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I do know that he has damaged the Democratic party as much if not worse than Carter did.
Democrats are willing to take short term losses, and win the battle. Government is a way of life for them.
Conservatives see government as a necessary evil.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 12:49 am to redandright
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Conservatives see government as a necessary evil.
sure they do
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:51 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:I was talking about this board. There are posters here who have melted down several times either before or after an election because voter fraud was the reason they were going to lose, or because they lost.
I don't think Ive ever heard an intelligent republican say they lost an election because of voter fraud. They just don't like the idea of it.
We're not talking about intelligent Republicans. We're talking about the idiots that post here.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 3:57 am to Crimson1st
quote:He never said what he did was illegal. This is another fun misquote that Republicans like yourself like to use.
Obama himself said numerous times that he couldn't legally do what he did so how do you square that?
He said he couldn't pass a law on his own. He's never said executive action was illegal. He only said that it was beyond the scope of his powers to enact law. This action was taken lawfully as a stop gap measure because congresses, both Democrat and Republican, have failed to pass legislation that addresses the issue.
Posted on 11/23/14 at 4:10 am to bamafan1001
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“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
He has not violated the Constitution. To the best of his ability, he has defended it. Enforcing laws is not something the president does. The judiciary enforces laws. He can change some appropriations and choose to, by executive order, ensure that current laws are enforced, but nothing he's done has violated that oath.
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