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EG has the lowest "Pass per Minute Ratio" in the NBA
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:27 pm to Fun Bunch
awesome stat to track
pretty sure it can be simplified to ball hog stat
pretty sure it can be simplified to ball hog stat
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:28 pm to Brageous
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pretty sure it can be simplified to ball hog stat
He calls it the "Black Hole Index".
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:29 pm to Fun Bunch
The passes per touch is more interesting IMO
Name;team;games;mins;touches per game;total touches;passes per touch
Name;team;games;mins;touches per game;total touches;passes per touch
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Kobe Bryant LAL 5 34.8 57.4 287 0.4390
Avery Bradley BOS 4 30.3 36.5 146 0.4877
Nikola Pekovic MIN 4 30.5 32 128 0.5000
Al Jefferson CHA 5 35.3 50.4 252 0.5040
Brook Lopez BKN 2 29 36 72 0.5139
Klay Thompson GSW 4 34.3 50.8 203 0.5281
Andre Drummond DET 4 27.3 32 128 0.5312
Kevin Martin MIN 3 30.7 43 129 0.5418
Gerald Green PHX 5 23 33 165 0.5455
Andrew Wiggins MIN 4 27.3 28 112 0.5464
KJ McDaniels PHI 4 22.5 24.3 97 0.5485
Eric Gordon NOP 4 33.1 30 120 0.5500
Ben Gordon ORL 5 22.5 31.6 158 0.5506
O.J. Mayo MIL 5 24 31.6 158 0.5570
Rudy Gay SAC 5 33.6 55.8 279 0.5699
LaMarcus Aldridge POR 4 35.6 59.5 238 0.5765
DeMar DeRozan TOR 5 35.4 65.8 329 0.5775
Chris Copeland IND 5 30.7 53.6 268 0.5784
DeMarcus Cousins SAC 5 29.2 56 280 0.5786
Dwight Howard HOU 5 32.1 53.8 269 0.5836
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:33 pm to saintsfan92612
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The passes per touch is more interesting IMO
Definitely a better metric but I didn't look at any of this all that closely before posting.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:34 pm to saintsfan92612
Can't blame some of those guys on shitty teams but no excuse for EG. Like I said before. He's the guy out there playing pickup games with 4 guys who are friends. He gets the ball and won't give it back because he's afraid he won't touch it again. So he chunks it up
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:34 pm to saintsfan92612
The names on that list aren't bad company...if you're scoring 20+ per game.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:36 pm to Fun Bunch
I understand we have to pay him. But don't let him play make him clean the arena after games
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:39 pm to quail man
I agree with your analogy. He looks like he's running his own offense out there when he gets the ball.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:40 pm to quail man
Or he just doesn't get the ball at all. That would ruin this stat for him.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 3:59 pm to Fun Bunch
12th in passes per touch is still terrible
Kobe passes the ball less than half of the times he touches it, is anyone surprised by this?
Kobe passes the ball less than half of the times he touches it, is anyone surprised by this?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:36 pm to TotesMcGotes
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Or he just doesn't get the ball at all. That would ruin this stat for him.
Yep. If you spend 90% of the game waiting for Evans to give up the rock, you're going to be more likely to shoot it every chance you get.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:37 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Does anyone track ball possession per minute played?
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:39 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
The only good way to look at this stat would be to compare it to touches per minute ratio. If you play a ton of minutes but never see the ball, obviously you're going to look bad.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:45 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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If you spend 90% of the game waiting for Evans to give up the rock, you're going to be more likely to shoot it every chance you get.
You're obsessed with Evans being a ball hog, but that's how he does what he does. He's a battering ram for opposing defenses. Determining when and when not to deploy the battering ram is on Monty, but having one is a good thing. And last year he sat Tyreke after he hogged the ball too much and that's not the first player Monty has benched for selfish play.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 4:52 pm to TigerinATL
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You're obsessed with Evans being a ball hog,
I call it like I see it. His usage is higher than AD and that is stupid.
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that's how he does what he does
Piss off AD?
A guy shooting under 40% from the field should not have a top 15 usage rate. His saving grace this far is he has hit his 3s. I hope he keeps it up or Monty will need to break him down sooner than later.
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:15 pm to Fun Bunch
Love this stat. Surprised Kobe isn't #1 though.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:15 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
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I call it like I see it. His usage is higher than AD and that is stupid.
This is a fact, I think the guy is good don't get me wrong, but this offense would be much better if it ran through AD and not through the perimeter.
Posted on 11/6/14 at 5:41 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Not that I am aware of. But you can go on NBA.com and see TOP for each player.
Holiday 5.8 MPG
Evans 4.2
Rivers 3.5
Davis 1.7
Gordon 1.2
Anderson .9
Asik .9
They also do Touches per Game
Evans 72
Holiday 69
Davis 58
Anderson 45
Asik 45
Rivers 38
Gordon 30
Last year Gordon was at 42 Touches per Game for 2.1 TOP. He's being used differently so far this season
Holiday 5.8 MPG
Evans 4.2
Rivers 3.5
Davis 1.7
Gordon 1.2
Anderson .9
Asik .9
They also do Touches per Game
Evans 72
Holiday 69
Davis 58
Anderson 45
Asik 45
Rivers 38
Gordon 30
Last year Gordon was at 42 Touches per Game for 2.1 TOP. He's being used differently so far this season
This post was edited on 11/6/14 at 5:42 pm
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