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re: Want Proof Tax Cuts Don't Stimulate the Economy? Look at Kansas
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:32 pm to Poodlebrain
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:32 pm to Poodlebrain
Well, go back and look at how Reagan's tax cuts were also a clear and colossal failure.
Kansas is just the latest and most obvious example.
Kansas is just the latest and most obvious example.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:35 pm to samson'sseed
quote:
Well, go back and look at how Reagan's tax cuts were also a clear and colossal failure.
Which ones....specifically.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:36 pm to samson'sseed
quote:
Well, go back and look at how Reagan's tax cuts were also a clear and colossal failure.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:36 pm to samson'sseed
quote:Do you really want to compare Reagan's employment rate to Obama's?
Well, go back and look at how Reagan's tax cuts were also a clear and colossal failure.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:36 pm to 90proofprofessional
The economy contracted under Bush.
Read your history.
Read your history.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:42 pm to Jim Ignatowski
So the police and army protection and the free education for your children...is that WRONG too?
What are you...an anarchist?
What are you...an anarchist?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:54 pm to samson'sseed
quote:
The economy contracted under Bush.
I must have misunderstood you, because it sounded to me like you just blamed the recession on Bush's tax cuts.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:58 pm to samson'sseed
Regans tax cuts were a failure.
You ignorant commie, such idiocy from people who don't have a clue and probably doesn't have a pot to piss in.
Reagan cut taxes and triped revenue to to the government coffers, this is a fact idiot.
Why did we gain debt then has to be the question you are groping for.
You had a Democratic House, and all expenditures are appropriated by the house, so when you are the president you don't rule the country, you have to make concessions to the other side, who love to spend money like drunken sailors. Also the feds under Jimmy Carter brought forth many new programs that had to be paid for. Like the Educatin Department etc etc.
Reagan cut taxes and tripled revenue, which means we had a spending problem, as is still the case.
You ignorant commie, such idiocy from people who don't have a clue and probably doesn't have a pot to piss in.
Reagan cut taxes and triped revenue to to the government coffers, this is a fact idiot.
Why did we gain debt then has to be the question you are groping for.
You had a Democratic House, and all expenditures are appropriated by the house, so when you are the president you don't rule the country, you have to make concessions to the other side, who love to spend money like drunken sailors. Also the feds under Jimmy Carter brought forth many new programs that had to be paid for. Like the Educatin Department etc etc.
Reagan cut taxes and tripled revenue, which means we had a spending problem, as is still the case.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:02 pm to samson'sseed
read the WSJ. They've had sluggish growth for years.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 4:35 pm to samson'sseed
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samson'sseed
Do you understand what I earn belongs to me first? Taxes I pay to the local government provide for services for the common good? They are not so the government can run a surplus.
Statist gonna Statist.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 5:23 pm to samson'sseed
quote:Excuse me, but I lived through the economic mess that Lyndon Johnson's economic and social policies created. It took the Reagan tax cuts to restore economic health to our country. I don't suppose you went looking for a job, or tried to buy a house, during Carter's time in office. If you had, then you'd look at Reagan's economic policies much more favorably.
Well, go back and look at how Reagan's tax cuts were also a clear and colossal failure
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:07 pm to samson'sseed
Your basic assumption is erroneous, SS. It's common sense to realize that people who have more money to spend...spend it. Our economy is consumer-based.
Of course, given the scary uncertainty of the Obama administration...people may well be squirreling their money away, fearing a coming reckoning re the idealist and impractical (think dangerous) policy failures.
Deficits are caused by GOVERNMENT SPENDING. Period.
Of course, given the scary uncertainty of the Obama administration...people may well be squirreling their money away, fearing a coming reckoning re the idealist and impractical (think dangerous) policy failures.
Deficits are caused by GOVERNMENT SPENDING. Period.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 6:23 pm to RCDfan1950
I just went back and actually read the OP article. I was expecting it to be slanted, possibly overtly so, but I was actually shocked by it.
It was so vapid, so hackish, that I am shocked TT9 hasn't come in to cheer it.
It was so vapid, so hackish, that I am shocked TT9 hasn't come in to cheer it.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 7:09 pm to goatmilker
You might better google : Clinton tax cuts 1997.
You might want to Google Clinton tax cuts 1993.
You might want to Google Clinton tax cuts 1993.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 8:59 pm to SlowFlowPro
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yup
one state and 1.5-2 years of data
it's over. keynes won
Really??? One nation and a 52 year old experiment has proven time and again that trickle down economics does not work unless the goal is to make wealth more concentrated and the gap bigger and bigger. If that is your end game, and, by the way, it has been for the GOP and the Kennedy's who started the whole slide, then trickle down economics works like a fricking champ. If, however, your goal is to stimulate a consumer driven economy then measures that concentrate wealth and income in fewer and fewer hands ain't the best of ideas.
We have just about borrowed all we can as residents of the middle class, we now have to have two incomes to get ends to even be close enough to holler at one another, forget about tying them together, and we simply don't have the income to buy the shite that the top 20% produces and sales. Yet here we are, more than 50 years since Kennedy suggested rising tides would raise all ships, and we are still so unbelievably naive that we still repeat what the 1% tells us is in our best interest because we are terrified to acknowledge the fact that our "betters" (financially speaking) don't know anything more about money than a fricking street thug who will rob the pennies off his dead mamma's eyes.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:05 pm to gatorrocks
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I don't think you understand what this means.
And once and for all, please explain how the poor provide jobs?
The same way the wealthy do....they buy shite. Our economy is consumer based. Wealthy people and entrepenuers do not "create" jobs (with the notable exception of their own)....customers create jobs. Customer demand for goods and services create jobs. Business owners are merely middle men who facilitate that trade. Of course this means that the rugged, self reliant, individual "job creator" may well be the first 3 but he most certainly is not the last....and that means that he really ain't that special and there is nothing in the world more butt hurt (even an Ole Miss fan) than a rugged, self reliant producer who hears someone suggest that he ain't the prettiest girl at the dance.....
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:12 pm to gatorrocks
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Consumers created iPods & Cars & raise cattle, etc, etc.
If it weren't for consumers no one would have done anything of those things. Who the frick would bother with a stupid, stinking cow beyond the number required to feed his own family if there was not a market for those cows> No one that I ever knew would keep a large number of cows as pets....they keep them because cows taste good and folks like to pay to eat the dammed things. The same idea applies to any other product or service.
Can you name a single job producer who does not have customers?
There have been lots of businesses and corporations who did not have customers and they don't last long. Why didn't those owners simply produce more jobs???? Because anyone who has ever actually ran a business knows that they ain't created anything other than their position...it is their customers demand for their products and services that made them or didn't.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:17 pm to germandawg
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there is nothing in the world more butt hurt (even an Ole Miss fan) than a rugged, self reliant producer who hears someone suggest that he ain't the prettiest girl at the dance
Except for you of course, as incontrovertibly shown by your ignorant, incoherent rants.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:20 pm to 90proofprofessional
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You're referring to the time he cut taxes, and both the economy and tax revenues grew, and this was sustained for a period much longer than the window examined in the OP?
It never happened without an increase in government spending. The reason is because even the staunchest of supply siders knows full well that tax cuts have never in the history of the western world paid for themselves....revenues ALWAYS fall....in fact Laffer knew this from the get go...so, in order to keep the economy from doing a Kansas nose dive spending is increased which in turns spurs the economy and stabilizes and even raises revenue.
There has never been a supply sider who didn't increase spending to keep the truth about tax cuts from being discovered....but ya'll go ahead and keep supporting the idea....we have been experiment with it since the early 60's and we are in EXCELLENT shape as a result....that was sarcasm by the way....
Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:24 pm to Jim Ignatowski
quote:
...I don't give a frick if they don't stimulate the economy.....it's MY fricking money that the government is taking....and that is just WRONG!!!
Amen Brother....I don't know why politicians don't simply take this tack....this is the fricking truth of the matter. Who gives a frick what taxes do or dont do to the economy at large....they frick up an individuals economy and that shite pisses us off.
So why can't a politician say this? There would be some blowback no doubt from the truly socialistic among us claiming that he or she was simply an uncaring shite but the attraction of hearing this simple truth out of a politician would out weigh that 10 - 1.
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