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re: Want Proof Tax Cuts Don't Stimulate the Economy? Look at Kansas

Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:14 pm to
Yu r dum.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:14 pm to
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Reagan tripled revenue to the federal coffers.


Actually, he doubled it. Tax cuts and deregulation resulted in a huge uptick in growth which increased revenue. This result caused liberals to go nuts so they've been reviving the history of the 80s ever since.

BTW, just heard an economist explain the benefits of lower gas prices. It will cause growth through middle class spending. The upper class will not change spending habits because the savings are small compared to their income.

The poor will not change spending habits because they don't have cars. Therefore, they won't benefit from lower gas prices.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:24 pm to
I think the benefit from lower gas prices comes from lowered transportation costs for business.

It used to cost the Hungry Man company one million dollars to get their trucks out to all the supermarkets so they could stock the shelves. Now it only costs 600,000 (since salaries aren't changing, neither is the price of a truck wash, window washing fluid, etc, the transportation costs dont EXACTLY math the oil price drop).

So now the Hungry Man can either make more money or lower prices for their products and because food is so competitive they probably will lower prices.

BTW - Of course there are no Hungry Man trucks", just making a very simplified example of how oil price drops lead to transportation drops leading to lower prices.

Same for any compnay that has to fly a lot.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:29 pm to
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The Bush tax cuts cost the US Treasury about one trillion dollars.


Whoah whoah whoah - you mean lower taxes result in lower revenues for the treasury?

No shite sherlock. What's your point? What is more important - the health of the economy or the government getting all the money possible from the citizens?

The government should exist for the benefit of the citizenry. It should not be a for-profit corporation. Unfortunately, I see way too much government waste in terms of overspending and also in terms of bad policies that do not better society as a whole. There should be safety nets to get people back on their feet, but government assistance should not be a lifestyle. Everyone needs to contribute in a functioning society and that is just not happening right now.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:29 pm to
Poor people don't have cars?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 1:41 pm to
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The Bush tax cuts cost the US Treasury about one trillion dollars.


The entirety of that article is built on the incredibly false premise that private sector revenues would have increased regardless of tax consequences. The very fact that we have inversion going on shows that concept to be utter bullshite.

Under the Bush tax cuts the federal government received returns higher than at any other point in history at a time when the financial industry had just taken a massive hit.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:03 pm to
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The Bush tax cuts cost the US Treasury about one trillion dollars.

Static analysis = trash built on known bad assumptions.

That is not to say the BTCs even approached paying for themselves. They did "cost" the Treasury, but quite certainly less than that static estimate.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:05 pm to
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I think the benefit from lower gas prices comes from lowered transportation costs for business.

That's a very good point.
Posted by ShortyRob
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82116 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:07 pm to
This bull shite OP got 9 pages?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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112469 posts
Posted on 12/12/14 at 2:08 pm to
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Poor people don't have cars?

Poor people are more prone to use public transportation. And, if they have a car, they don't go on road trips. A quick stop at the liquor store to do your 'banking' and get some foteys doesn't take much gas.
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