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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:01 am to
Well, we just started talking about this last night, so this is in the absolute infancy stages.

In my line of work, its just impossible for me to miss more than a week. I am already panicking about missing that much time.

I think we will skip Rome. Just not enough time.

I would really like to see Venice, so maybe we will hop on a train immediately, spend one night there, and spend the rest of the time in Florence/Tuscany/Cinque Terre.

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39553 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:03 am to
Ya, prioritizing is tough but your arrival airport of Milan is going to help force you to do that.

Just read about all the places in that part of the country and pick the few you like.

You'll have a great time regardless unless you overdo it.

I had to do this for my brother. He wanted to visit like 7 places in 10 days. Sounded awful.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115495 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:05 am to
My wife and I are a bit at odds sometimes about travel. She tends to favor beach destinations, but loves to go see things....move move move move move.

I like to just sit my arse down and relax.

But of course, we are going to follow her plan...so it will be constantly on the move.
Posted by mpar98
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2006
8034 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:09 am to
Just go for the Umbria Jazz Festival in Perugia, Italy...freaking beautiful
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:18 am to
I'm seriously considering just going straight to Florence, spending a couple of days there, driving to Cinque Terre, a couple of days there, then flying out. Skipping Venice and Rome, etc.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38943 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:21 am to
I'd rent a car and stay in two different places in the countryside, maybe south and north locations. I'd take day trips in the car to see sights. VRBO or the like, stay in 'real' Italy, not some hotel.
Posted by themasterpater
I travel
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:21 am to
Cinque Terra without a doubt, then Tuscany. Rome, Venice, Florence etc. are interesting but big, sprawling, overwhelming and tough to cover in a few days. You will already be fighting jetlag, and may be too tired to fight the city. To me, vacations spent in cities are not as enjoyable as a vacation in the countryside or coastline which you will find in Tuscany and Cinque Terra. Tuscany is wine country if you and the wife are winos. Cinque Terra will also have great wine, seafood, and gelato. If I could go back to one place in Italy it would be Cinque Terra. I've traveled quite a bit...14 countries in europe, australia, canada, cozumel, mexico, dominican republic, thailand, cambodia, vietnam...argentina in 2 months.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:23 am
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:23 am to
avoid Europe in August
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115495 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:28 am to
quote:

VRBO or the like, stay in 'real' Italy, not some hotel.


My wife doesn't do hotels. VRBO, AirBNB and the like all the way. Personally, I'd rather a resort but she's all about "real" experiences so I'm game.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115495 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:31 am to
quote:

avoid Europe in August


Its the beginning of September, which won't be a lot better.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:33 am to
Go to the Sigonella Inn near Catania, Sicily, and drink at the poolside bar with the the Romanian strippers.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:34 am
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:34 am to
TL;DR - if you are going for your first time, you probably want to visit Rome, Florence, & Venice.
quote:

If he can throw in Rome, he can throw in Amalfi.
It depends on how much time he wants to spend there. If he's only going to be there a week... that's enough time to see 2, maybe 3 cities. It's really not worth spending only one day in any of them unless he's going just for the sake of going.
quote:

We have heard that Milan isn't that great as a place to visit, but the train rides to Venice and Florence from their are pretty doable.

So we are considering flying in to Milan, taking a train to Venice, then to Florence. MAYBE throwing in Pisa or Rome if we have time. We have also heard that Balogna is worth a visit over some other places as well.

Here's my $0.02.

Venice (1-2 days) - is a cool place to visit once to say you've gone, but there isn't a whole lot to do there. Take a trip down the grand canal. Go to St Mark's, visit Doge's palace, look at the Rialto bridge, pay a ridiculous fee to ride a gondola. That's it. There's some other cool stuff to do if you want to fill up extra days, like Murano glass, but Venice is pretty much what you think it is.

Florence (2-3 days) - was my favorite place. Some people vote for Rome, but I absolutely loved the Florence. I'm a huge fan of Renaissance art. The Duomo is massive and impressive. The Uffizi is one of the best art galleries in the world. The David really does take your breath away. There are still artisan masters that will make a shoe for YOUR foot. You can buy leather, jewelry, book bindings, whatever. If you try to learn Italian, Florence residents speak the closest version of formal Italian. None of that mush mouth slang shite from Rome. If you go to Italy, you have to go to Florence. Period.
I'm not going to lie. I was so pumped for my trip that I bought and played Assassin's Creed 2 just so I could learn the layout of the city. You can rush it and get it done in 1 day, but I'd recommend 2 days. If you stay a 3rd day, I'd use that for shopping and/or going out to Chianti, Montalcino, or Montepulciano for a wine tour. You can go to Pisa, but it's just a damn leaning building. That's it.

Rome (3 days) - Similar to Florence. If you go to Italy, you have to go to Rome and the Vatican. On the Vatican tour, they'll tell you that if you spent 30 seconds looking at every piece of the art collection, 24/7/365 with no sleep, it would take you 7 years to see it all. Pretty damn awesome. I personally thought St. Peter's was more impressive than the Sistine, but to each his own. Pantheon, Coliseum, Roman Forum, Trevi fountain. Tons of cool shite to do in Rome. Tours. Ballet. Opera. Nightlife. Whatever floats your boat. The airfare shouldn't be too bad from the States as you can usually get a direct flight from the East coast.

Other cool stops:
Bologna - but only to stop and test drive a Ferrari. They'll give you a tour, throw you some keys, and tell you to have fun.
Tuscany - if you are into wine. It's super cool to stop at a vineyard, take a tour, do a taste test, and buy the best wine in the world direct & have it shipped to your door for a fraction of what it'll cost you in the states.
Siena - if you are going to be there during the horse race.
Amalfi Coast - if you want to spend a few days relaxing at the beginning or end of your trip. Not your traditional beach, but WAY more beautiful.
Milan - if your wife wants to brag to her friends that she went to the fashion capitol.
Cinque Terre - if you want some beach time, but aren't going to go to Rome/Naples/Amalfi.

Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
38943 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:41 am to
My wife's already planning an Italy trip and it's over two years away. She loves planning more than the trip I think. One rule, by God have a fricking opinion if she asks you about something, no matter how far away or random it is.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

And most gondoliers dont even sing
Yeah. They don't fricking sing.
But, luckily... I'm a slick bastard. I started whistling La Donna E Mobile... and the poor gondolier couldn't help himself when it got to the chorus and blurted out, "muta d'accento e di pensier".
I turned around and said, "Gotcha".
And we laughed our asses off. So, I got him to sing a few words.


The gondolas have highly restricted permits, on stuff like looks and gondolier outfits. They also cost a fortune. The Italians joked that they can either buy a brand new Ferrari or a used Gondola for the same price. They're like $250-500k. Crazy.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

Bring good shoes, you'll probably be walking a ton.
You can stuff yourself like a pig with food and wine until you can't fit anymore.... and you'll lose weight while there.
So much walking and everything is super organic.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
11872 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 10:52 am to
quote:

My wife doesn't do hotels. VRBO, AirBNB and the like all the way. Personally, I'd rather a resort but she's all about "real" experiences so I'm game.
Well, to be fair, the hotels in Italy are very different from America. So, they are a "real" experience.
You can actually stay at a castle in Tuscany. Like, a real castle, that they've just converted to be a BNB. Pretty cool. Like this one for instance. LINK
Or this one: LINK

For flights, it might be better to fly in and out of different airports. Fly into Milan (or even better Venice), drive over to Venice, Train to Florence, Train to Rome, Fly out of Rome.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 10:57 am
Posted by kbol34
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Mar 2013
583 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:02 am to
Use blablacar to get places if the train is too expensive.
Google it.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38119 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:07 am to
quote:

Skipping Venice and Rome, etc.


If you've never been, I think you should go. Venice may be overrated, but I still think it's worth seeing in your lifetime. Rome is a must imo.

I went to Venice, Florence, Assisi, and Rome. Definitely hitting up Amalfi Coast and Cinque Terre next time.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36320 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:14 am to
A quick rundown that I've done, besides Milan:

Milan -> Lake Como -> Modena (Ferrari factory) -> Bologna -> Florence -> Rome -> Naples -> Amalfi coast

Florence is easily my favorite Italian city and the tuscany region is
You could spend a month + just there. Rome is cool for it's historical value but I'm not a big fan. If I were you, go to Firenze and just drink/eat/cruise the countryside. Also, buy as much leather in Florence as you can. shite is so cheap compared to stateside.

The Amalfi coast will make you want to stay there for life. I've never been to a place that I think about so much. It was amazing.

Also, I've been told Venice smells in the summer
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 11:20 am
Posted by JAXTiger16
TBD
Member since Apr 2013
2216 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:26 am to
I spent 4 months in Sicily near Catania. There's alot of cool stuff to do around there
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