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Project Managers- what's this job like?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:26 pm
An SAP consulting firm has sent me an offer to work as a project administrator. Basically, they need someone to assist a project manager who is currently assigned a very big project and is swamped. My role would be very basic but the offer is good for me. I work for a bigger company, better pay/benefits. I'm currently a CPA for a small firm. I just graduated and know nothing about working projects or consulting but this company had my resume on hand from when I was looking in college and reached out to me. I want to make sure that work on projects would be good experience. Because I think the job itself is a great opportunity for me but I'm gaining valuable experience as a CPA, imo. Any advice?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:30 pm to Tigerfan56
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project managers
Managing projects
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:30 pm to Tigerfan56
It sounds like a good opportunity. My dad took a job similar to yours and continued to advance to a better job within the company. Despite only having an accounting degree, he is now the project manager for one of the largest construction firms in the world's biggest project
Like the poster below said though, lots of blame and you have to deal with extremely hard headed individuals
Like the poster below said though, lots of blame and you have to deal with extremely hard headed individuals
This post was edited on 10/19/14 at 9:33 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:31 pm to Tigerfan56
Project management sucks. Be prepared to be blamed alot and hated. Especially doing it work. I hope your Indian language skills are top knotch.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 9:41 pm to lsufanintexas
quote:This all the way.
Project management sucks. Be prepared to be blamed alot and hated.
I'm a PM for a decent-sized petro construction company, and much of the time I'm the middle man for bitchfests. Either the customer gripes up to me or our execs are bitching down to me. Very rarely are the gripes directly related to me, but I feel like I am more a liaison between our customers and execs.
But I will say that we do have a lot of complications and disarray in our upper management, and I feel like that does contribute to at least half of my headaches. Hopefully things go smoothly for you.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:23 pm to theGarnetWay
I've been a PM for 18 months now. Had ZERO idea of what to do headed into the job. Your organizational and documentation skills should be something you are confident about. The better your soft skills, the easier your job will be.
You'll deal with bullshite running downhill and you'll realize that bullshite also runs uphill as well. Just remember that you are not responsible for a single line of code, nor are you accountable for inventing a business process or rule on your own.
But when one or the other is missing or incongruent, you will hear about it. Relentlessly.
Two pieces of advice: choose your supervisory chain of command very closely. The closer they are, the more carefully you should consider how much of a personality fit you are. Very important consideration.
The other thing I'll suggest, and this is something I'd suggest to anyone considering a new job: ask your potential supervisor-the person whom you will be a direct report to-their opinion of what it will take to meet or exceed their expectation in the position you're aiming or interviewing for.
If you get ambiguity, wonder aloud why and wonder whether or not it's a good fit silently. If you get specificity, write it down, commit it to memory, and let that guide your work product daily.
You'll deal with bullshite running downhill and you'll realize that bullshite also runs uphill as well. Just remember that you are not responsible for a single line of code, nor are you accountable for inventing a business process or rule on your own.
But when one or the other is missing or incongruent, you will hear about it. Relentlessly.
Two pieces of advice: choose your supervisory chain of command very closely. The closer they are, the more carefully you should consider how much of a personality fit you are. Very important consideration.
The other thing I'll suggest, and this is something I'd suggest to anyone considering a new job: ask your potential supervisor-the person whom you will be a direct report to-their opinion of what it will take to meet or exceed their expectation in the position you're aiming or interviewing for.
If you get ambiguity, wonder aloud why and wonder whether or not it's a good fit silently. If you get specificity, write it down, commit it to memory, and let that guide your work product daily.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 10:41 pm to Tigerfan56
I'm a construction PM. It's like I tell my daughter its a lot like running a day care. I listen to people whine all day, I spend the rest of my time hearing people tell me what they aren't going to do, and if everyone behaves, we occasionally get to build stuff
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:14 am to Tigerfan56
quote:well, if you are a CPA, you know a little number from a big number - just make sure your project comes in with the little number - aka - on budget or under.
Because I think the job itself is a great opportunity for me but I'm gaining valuable experience as a CPA, imo. Any advice?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:40 am to Tigerfan56
You didn't give you age or the specific of what type of project. But I'll give a penny's worth. You are going to be a supervisor, your job is a go between "big boss, littler boss". If you are not afraid of your shadow you should be fine, the people under you will respect you position. The important thing to remember in that business world, you don't have friends only potential enemies. That's important but not the golden rule. Tell the people under you individually what is expected and what is their job. You will prolly be the voice of the bossman. Going from job to job is bad, unless you have a skilled trade. Project manager and assistants/administrator to them making 6 figures going job to job is a damn good living. Hope that helps.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 2:42 am to elprez00
And what he said too. It is spot on.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:11 am to ALWho
Meetings.
So many meetings.
Learn to be efficient with them and how to control a room.
So many meetings.
Learn to be efficient with them and how to control a room.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:19 am to Tigerfan56
SAP consulting firm is a way better job than small CPA firm, I'd jump on that quick in your situation.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:49 am to Sheep
Meetings full of blame passing in my experience.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:14 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Meetings full of blame passing in my experience.
Dont forget filling out forms. You can't have enough forms.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:31 am to elprez00
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It's like I tell my daughter its a lot like running a day care.
Same thing i tell people when they ask me. I babysit all day long. Only difference is that it's babysitting grown arse men who act like children.
When i'm not in a meeting, i'm listening to why someone can't do something or why they missed a delivery date b/c they didn't get something from the person in the next cube.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:34 am to Sheep
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Meetings. So many meetings. Learn to be efficient with them and how to control a room.
Poor project management practices IMO. If you're meeting just to give status updates, that's just ridiculous. Find a way to streamline these updates electrionically and stop scheduling all these pointless status meetings and wasting your time. That time could be better used in other areas when managing a project.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:38 am to Black
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I babysit all day long. Only difference is that it's babysitting grown arse men who act like children.
Pretty much. You get to babysit blue collar workers as well as white collar workers and both must be babysat differently. Be prepared to go between blue and white collar worlds multiple times a day. Bean counters and bean pickers.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:51 am to BottomlandBrew
From the way some of y'all are describing your jobs, it sounds like you aren't actually Project Mangers. Moreso like Project Coordinatiors or Project Expediters and your organization is incorrectly titling you as a Project Manager.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 7:53 am
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