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re: So I have a job interview next week. (Day one is in the books page 4)

Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:49 pm to
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10305 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:49 pm to
Ask for all your vacation up front.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50730 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:50 pm to
show cleavage.

ETA: a woman that did this got the job. you're interviewing just to pass the HR rules.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 8:52 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30590 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:51 pm to
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Been unemployed since the last of April



Better start off with a dirty joke. Make them laugh.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54478 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:51 pm to
How about wow Janice are those Double D's you sporting? I would like to play with those funbags someday.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124275 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 8:53 pm to
No advice

Just want to wish you luck
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15220 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:00 pm to
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questions I should avoid asking
It was clear that one of the guys we were interviewing had been to the departmental webpage and studied all of us. That's fine, I'd do the same. But he started asking really probing, personalized questions about our fields and stuff (and he restated every question we asked him, like it was a group therapy session, wtf?). That's what I was getting at earlier about coming off like a stalker. I knew he was gaming me and that was insulting, so you've got to try to walk that fine line between showing that you care enough to check out the people you'll be working with, but not getting up in their business like it's an OT thread.

Don't ask the illegal personal questions, obviously. They're going to try to find ways to ask them of you, though. "Has your wife been to California before?"

Are the schools you listed the only ones in the country with that program, or are they the only ones in the southeast with that program? If they're the only ones in the country, there's not much they can say about teasing you about being southern. If there are others, get ready for the Yankee/West Coast fascination with southern white people. Don't overplay that and avoid playing up the stereotypes for your own amusement (if you get the job, you'll have to live with the caricature of yourself that you painted in the interview [it's good fun with people from AL, MS, LA, etc. call each other redneck and sister banger, but it's insulting when outsiders do it]).

UC systems are in a horrendous budget crisis, so I would dance around the salary issue. They've probably provided a salary range in the ad and there's nothing wrong with trying to get more, but tread lightly. They don't want to hire someone who's going to get pissed over salary within 12 months and jet. Asked about "room to grow, professionally, in this position" and "growing within the program."

In that hiring committee situation you described, I'd want to know exactly who the boss is and who's in the chain of command. Sounds like you're serving several different masters. And from my experience with extension agents, the extension service is a whole other animal from the ag school side (though people from that college tend to be far less egg headed and socially awkward that other colleges).

ETA: And if there will be students there, you need to emphasize how much you like working with students and helping guide them in their learning/maturation process (even if all you care about is researching salmonella in the slaughter process and envision the students being turned upside down on that slaughter conveyor). "Student-centered" is the new buzzword. In reality, I have no problem with it because it's really what we ought to be doing anyway: if a student needs help and you can provide it, do it - if you can't call someone who can; and don't be an a-hole unnecessarily when dealing with students.

Find out from the student what kinds of things they are looking for in a professor in this position, but be careful not to get them off on a rant about other profs. Some students are just waiting to tell you every shitting thing there is to know about a prof, and even if everything they say is true, it's going to piss off the other profs who are in the room. Plus, this interview is about you, not the a-hole who was there before.
This post was edited on 10/16/14 at 9:09 pm
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 10/16/14 at 9:17 pm to
Almost every algricultural university has a few poultry processors, so I haven't been limited to just the ones listed.

The other interviews I've had I Just had an idea of what area people work in; beef, dairy, equine, sheep, poultry etc. much more than that and you're right it gets to be an OT detective thread.

I'm good at downplaying my southern traits, I can't hide my accent, but it's southern and not redneck.t



Posted by LSU0812
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2013
728 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 6:49 am to
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Great questions. Also, at the end of the interview, ask if they have any hesitations about hiring you and address them on the spot. Shows that you can accept criticism in real time, and it'll help you clarify anything they may have misunderstood.

You're in academia. Everyone knows it's been rough for y'all, so don't worry too much about not working for the last few months. Just talk about how, though you were in an unfortunate situation, you continued to learn.

Good luck!
Posted by SpartyGator
Detroit Lions fan
Member since Oct 2011
75388 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:02 am to
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the interview process in most companies has become kind of strange...most all of the questions are situational ("tell me about a time when...")- type interviews...

I would suggest that you have at least a few good ones to tell them should they ask:

- how do you go about solving a difficult problem?

- tell me about a time when you dealt with a difficult person

- tell me about a time when you....

and of course, have a canned answer for the two old standby interview questions:

- where do you see yourself in 5 years? 10 years?

- what is your biggest weakness?




When it came to those questions, I was pretty good at. Usually, there's one question about some topic I learned in school, that I think would be irrelevant, but gets asked that screwed me up
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:14 am to
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PhD in poultry science


That is (obviously) a very specialized field. Some particular passion led you to it. Focus on that root cause and demonstrate that to the interviewers. As a recent grad you do not have to know everything. What you have to demonstrate is a desire to continually learn and grow.
Posted by Mickey Donovan
Southie
Member since Aug 2014
672 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:31 am to
Good luck on your interview. I obtained my PhD last year and couldn't find an industry job coming right out of college. Refused to go the academic route so I took a post doc position with a small company. It's OK work but I was making peanuts for someone with my degree. Just got an offer recently from one of the oil and gas companies and now I'm

Moral of the story: Never don't give up.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 7:33 am to
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don't give up.

good luck
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:01 am to
• Visit the company website and read up on the latest going on there
• Introduce what you learned into your interview conversation, especially anything that dovetails with your background, experience, interests
• Ask questions, specifically about where the company is now, what it plans for the future, and how it intends to get there
• Look for opportunities during the interview to state how your skills and background answer a need the interviewer has articulated. At least once during the interview--preferably near the end--say something to the effect of:

"After discussing the company's situation and listening to what you need from the new employee, I believe I can answer your needs for the following reasons (then launch into a brief summary of the skills and experience that answer the employer's needs).

Good luck.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:04 am to
bring your double ended cowbell
fart as soon as you enter the room to establish dominance
make a nice tit joke about you interviewers wife
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:20 am to
Thanks everybody, I'll see what I can do about an "in game interview thread"
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:22 am to
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Explain how this happens?

I literally cannot comprehend this.

Are you trying at all?


Pretty cocky for a shite-dick that was sweating about passing the bar 30 minutes ago.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:23 am to
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Pretty cocky for a shite-dick that was sweating about passing the bar 30 minutes ago.




he's already starting to get the trial lawyer swag!
Posted by yankeeundercover
Buffalo, NY
Member since Jan 2010
36373 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:25 am to
Wear a tuxedo.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 4:14 pm to
dropping knowledge

yes/no to follow-up thank you emails?
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15220 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 4:46 pm to
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yes/no to follow-up thank you emails?
Well, I used to think they were annoying, but now that people don't send them as much, it makes the ones you get sound even better. The lady we hired recently sent one. She referenced a joke I made during the interview. I was already leaning her direction, so the email was just kind of icing on the cake.

Short answer: if you're just not a good fit or you tanked your interview, they aren't going to save you. If someone else is obviously better than you, they're not going to lift you above them. If all other things were equal, the only thing they can do is help you.

Personally, I can't overstate the importance of personality, experience, and being the right "fit." To go back to the recent hire I've referenced before - for a college faculty position (teaching, not research), ultimately we chose a person with only an MA, who happened to be pregnant (baby would be born prior to start date), and whose husband was here to complete a two year graduate degree (she might leave after 2 years) OVER a PhD because it was evident that she had the personality and temperament to be successful with students and a willing contributor to our program's overall mission. As I told my boss when I was justifying hiring her, if she ends up being as good as I think she will be, we'll find a job for her husband just to keep her, . But if she leaves after two years, so be it. I'd rather we had the best for two years than meh for twenty years.
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