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BBC article: climate models underestimate plants' CO2 absorption

Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:17 am
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10892 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:17 am
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Global climate models have underestimated the amount of CO2 being absorbed by plants, according to new research.


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Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29409 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 3:51 am to
What? The global warming kooks are wrong again?

Unfortunately, they'll never give it up although no sane person believes them.
quote:

"This new research implies it will be slightly easier to fulfil the target of keeping global warming below two degrees - but with a big emphasis on 'slightly'," said Dr Chris Huntingford, a climate modeller at the UK's Centre for Ecology and Hydrology.

"Overall, the cuts in CO2 emissions over the next few decades will still have to be very large if we want to keep warming below two degrees."


These fricking fools think they can "keep" the earth from doing what it has naturally done for millenia. Or worse, they think that we believe their "solutions".
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8393 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:25 am to
to even think that Man has gathered a little more than an inkling of knowledge on the subject of CC is grade A idiocy

yet retard libs and progressives want to run around and change the world and tax you for for it and they don't even have a clue WTF it is...
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98479 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:25 am to
No. Don't you get it? This means evil, irresponsible, greedy humans have been pumping even more of that polluting CO2 into the atmosphere than has been estimated (of course, it also means that their estimates of historical CO2 levels is likely even more off because of the greater abundance of plants (including plankton) in the pre industrial period).
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:34 am to
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But modeling the exact impacts on a global scale is a fiendishly complicated business.


lol

Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 6:40 am to
Seems like what they're talking about is the amount absorbed per plant (given size). I find it surprising that this is something that is still not known precisely. And being off by 16%? Maybe I'm off-base but that seems pretty huge.

I was expecting this to talk about how the amount absorbed by plants in the aggregate would change in proportion because plant growth should be endogenous with atmospheric co2.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51484 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:22 am to
:NB4FlatEarth:
Posted by Crimson
Member since Jan 2013
1330 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:59 am to
I will only start giving 'climate change' credibility when Al Gore and his ilk divest themselves of the significant financial gain they receive from being its mouthpiece.

The wealth they have gained destroys their credibility.
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
67302 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:01 am to
Doesn't matter because in the long run, plants don't do much in that they release all the CO2 back into the atmosphere when they die and decay.

Unless they are buried.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:45 am to
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But experts believe the new calculation is unlikely to make a difference to global warming predictions
reading. Its fun.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:47 am to
quote:

I will only start giving 'climate change' credibility when Al Gore and his ilk divest themselves of the significant financial gain they receive from being its mouthpiece.

The wealth they have gained destroys their credibility.

Al gore has zero peer reviewed climate publications. You are a moron.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64196 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:48 am to
So plants absorb more co2 than thought but makes no difference in warming predictions?

Why is that?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98479 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:50 am to
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So plants absorb more co2 than thought but makes no difference in warming predictions? Why is that?


It's almost as if the warming might be caused by something else...

Perhaps it's that gigantic nuclear furnace 93 million miles away.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29409 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:03 am to
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It's almost as if the warming might be caused by something else... 

Perhaps it's that gigantic nuclear furnace 93 million miles away.
Oh bullshite! Everyone knows that the sun has absolutely no effect on the earth's climate!

Signed,
Spidey
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64196 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:20 am to
quote:

So plants absorb more co2 than thought but makes no difference in warming predictions?

Why is that?


I thought the whole carbon credit thing and carbon neutral planting etc was all related to co2 absorbtion?
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:25 am to
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Al gore has zero peer reviewed climate publications. You are a moron.
Doesn't stop him from making AGW/CC/GFY his little cash cow. You and the folks who support this are the real morons here.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23710 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:35 am to
When those that gain financially politically or prestige wise review work done by others with the same things to gain you have to question their credibility.

All these oopsies we have been seeing recently and all the errors made both accidentally and on purpose in the data interpretation call the entire concept of "climate change", AKA "global warming", into question.

Calling someone an idiot that questions these people's credibility is the height of arrogance. You are advancing a theory that predicts doom and gloom that has not panned out. And the majority of the American People suspect that theory is being advanced for political gain. Only a cretin would not be suspicious of the climate change crowd.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29365 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:37 am to
Somewhere in space, I picture Kang and Kodos sitting in their flying saucer and laughing at our ignorance.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:44 am to
quote:

And being off by 16%? Maybe I'm off-base but that seems pretty huge.



even if they were only off by 10% that's a massive amount, kilo or mega tonnage of carbon annually.

The fact that so much hysteria is generated by those who don't even understand the science shows their agenda is not based on reality but their own selfish interests.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 9:50 am to
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But experts believe the new calculation is unlikely to make a difference to global warming predictions
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reading. Its fun.

Well it obviously should make a difference, since co2 in the air is supposed to be the primary driver of temp increases.

Saying this won't affect the predictions is equivalent to saying climate models are assumed perfect and will not be updated no matter what. Unless these results are shown to be wrong and plant co2 uptake exactly what we previously thought, that is retarded.
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