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Something I took away from the ESPN Gurley article
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:50 pm
LINK
I don't know all of the legalities, but I feel like if this isn't attempting to make money off of your likeness....
I wish LSU would nip that whole effort by his family in the bud before it becomes an NCAA violations mess that we're seeing now with Gurley.
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A source told ESPN's Joe Schad that the NCAA investigation centers around whether Gurley was given money for autographs, memorabilia or the use of his likeness. Georgia officials did not reveal the alleged violation.
I don't know all of the legalities, but I feel like if this isn't attempting to make money off of your likeness....
I wish LSU would nip that whole effort by his family in the bud before it becomes an NCAA violations mess that we're seeing now with Gurley.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 6:57 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
the ncaa enforces rules only on who it chooses and turns a blind eye to others
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:00 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
only a guess ...
there is probably a distinction between "above board" and "behind the walls"
the CLC handles most of the licensing
there is probably a distinction between "above board" and "behind the walls"
the CLC handles most of the licensing
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:03 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
If Fournette and/or his family are the ones selling those shirts and pocketing the profit then LSU needs to step him and tell them to cut the shite out. If it's random people, or the university itself, and none of that money is going to Fournette or his family (At least not directly with a paper trail) then there's nothing the NCAA can do about it.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:04 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
The way it was explained on the radio is Gurley was doing it through a third party who makes money to influence athletes to use a certain agent.
And if it's Buga's family that is running the show, and he's only getting "paid" from his mom like a normal kid gets money from their parents, I don'tsee it as an issue
And if it's Buga's family that is running the show, and he's only getting "paid" from his mom like a normal kid gets money from their parents, I don'tsee it as an issue
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:05 pm to RB10
Didn't one of the LSU shops receive a cease and desist from the NCAA because of the Honey Badger shirts a few years ago?
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:10 pm to Cap Crunch
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Didn't one of the LSU shops receive a cease and desist from the NCAA because of the Honey Badger shirts a few years ago?
I don't know. I avoid anything to do with NCAA "sanctions" seeing as the organization is a complete joke.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:12 pm to RB10
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NCAA "sanctions" seeing as the organization is a complete joke.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:15 pm to RB10
I could definitely see his family making money off of it as a possible violation but who knows. It's his symbol but not his signature? It's his family not an agent?
I would hope LSU would tell his family to hold of 2.5 years and wait for that NFL money if it is a violation. But if all these 5 stars are really bought by big schools anyway I'm sure what they make of those shirts and hats are chump change.
I would hope LSU would tell his family to hold of 2.5 years and wait for that NFL money if it is a violation. But if all these 5 stars are really bought by big schools anyway I'm sure what they make of those shirts and hats are chump change.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:37 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
I don't see an issue as long as it doesn't have LSU on it. The colors may be some type of issue But I don't think LSU owns the trademark to purple
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:06 pm to tigerfoot
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I don't see an issue as long as it doesn't have LSU on it. The colors may be some type of issue But I don't think LSU owns the trademark to purple
Oh yeah they do. Trust me. According to the NCLA, anything that is "synonymous " to a college or bearing their "marks" makes it their property. So if you paint a rock purple and gold/yellow, sell them, and someone says "hey, it's an LSU rock, someone can report you. Soon after you will receive a "cease and desist letter "If it's a big enough operation in their eyes, they will send you the same letter and demand you report to them what remaining inventory you have, how many sold, and what profits were made.
So a long story short, yes, LSU and the NCLA say they own the combination of the color purple and gold. And because LF7 has made that symbol and plays for LSU that makes all that apparel "synonymous" to LSU. I don't see him getting in any trouble by the NCAA but if someone turns whoever that is selling them in, or if LSU turns them in, they could have some trouble
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 8:09 pm
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:36 pm to coonass27
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This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:37 pm to coonass27
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Oh yeah they do. Trust me. According to the NCLA, anything that is "synonymous " to a college or bearing their "marks" makes it their property. So if you paint a rock purple and gold/yellow, sell them, and someone says "hey, it's an LSU rock, someone can report you. Soon after you will receive a "cease and desist letter "If it's a big enough operation in their eyes, they will send you the same letter and demand you report to them what remaining inventory you have, how many sold, and what profits were made.
So a long story short, yes, LSU and the NCLA say they own the combination of the color purple and gold. And because LF7 has made that symbol and plays for LSU that makes all that apparel "synonymous" to LSU. I don't see him getting in any trouble by the NCAA but if someone turns whoever that is selling them in, or if LSU turns them in, they could have some trouble
The Lakers are gonna pissed about this.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:41 pm to tigersruledude
They won't have any trouble. No one is paying LF directly, the colors could be St. Aug. It's his "parents" business.........
Posted on 10/9/14 at 9:21 pm to Dlab2013
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This post was edited on 2/19/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:22 pm to Dlab2013
Excellent recruiting tool,
btw, for any/all St Aug recruits.
"Hey, come to LSU......sell purple, spend gold!!"
btw, for any/all St Aug recruits.
"Hey, come to LSU......sell purple, spend gold!!"
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:37 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
Buga is not LF's likeness.
It is something that his family has called him for a very long time. There are interviews and articles which explain specifically: BUGA means "real"... as in genuine / not phony.
It does not mean Leonard.
If Leonard grew up with his family saying: "Keepin' it Real" ... or "Dude" or "Homeslice", and his family noticed that the way their son and his friends used the phrase made it trendy, I don't see any reason they shouldn't be able to capitalize on selling t-shirts, hats, etc. saying "keepin' it Real", "Dude" or "Homeslice". It is not Leonard's likeness.
So, again, since Buga means "Real", and does not mean Leonard, the same idea should hold true. This has been documented in interviews before there was any thought of trademarking the word and selling merchandise. So, it is not a backstory created after the merchandising idea was launched to artificially create separation between LF and the word BUGA. It should not be a violation.
It is something that his family has called him for a very long time. There are interviews and articles which explain specifically: BUGA means "real"... as in genuine / not phony.
It does not mean Leonard.
If Leonard grew up with his family saying: "Keepin' it Real" ... or "Dude" or "Homeslice", and his family noticed that the way their son and his friends used the phrase made it trendy, I don't see any reason they shouldn't be able to capitalize on selling t-shirts, hats, etc. saying "keepin' it Real", "Dude" or "Homeslice". It is not Leonard's likeness.
So, again, since Buga means "Real", and does not mean Leonard, the same idea should hold true. This has been documented in interviews before there was any thought of trademarking the word and selling merchandise. So, it is not a backstory created after the merchandising idea was launched to artificially create separation between LF and the word BUGA. It should not be a violation.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:40 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
there is no likeness of LF on those shirts at all that i can see.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:42 pm to AlabamasSalaryCap
It's ridiculous that these kids can't make money off of their names but the NCAA and universities can with jersey sales and other memorabilia
Posted on 10/9/14 at 10:47 pm to MoreOrLes
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quote: NCAA "sanctions" seeing as the organization is a complete joke.
"Run" by none other than Mark Emmert.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 10:52 pm
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