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When will egregious missed penalties be reviewable? (ie Bama face mask)
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:02 pm
So in the NFL any turnover and any scoring play is reviewable. In NCAA, all plays are reviewable. The leagues understand that they have to use the technology available to them to get right call, especially for big game changing plays.
So why in the world would we still handcuff ourselves from making the right call when there are blatant uncalled penalties that lead to these big plays? (obvious example would be the missed facemask vs. Ole Miss that lead to fumble & TD)
There has to be some attempt to introduce these penalties (or removal of penalties) into the review process. Start with personal fouls, PI over 15 yards & in EZ, something.
The leagues and we as fans look moronic when we watch a replay that everyone is 100% in agreement on, but we just shrug "welp, can't do anything about that one!"
So why in the world would we still handcuff ourselves from making the right call when there are blatant uncalled penalties that lead to these big plays? (obvious example would be the missed facemask vs. Ole Miss that lead to fumble & TD)
There has to be some attempt to introduce these penalties (or removal of penalties) into the review process. Start with personal fouls, PI over 15 yards & in EZ, something.
The leagues and we as fans look moronic when we watch a replay that everyone is 100% in agreement on, but we just shrug "welp, can't do anything about that one!"
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:04 pm to Brightside Bengal
This does not need to happen IMO. I understand where are you coming from though.
This will only serve to slow the game even more. I don't want every single play to be up for review at all.
There are going to be wrong calls and missed calls and I am okay with that. That's just sports
This will only serve to slow the game even more. I don't want every single play to be up for review at all.
There are going to be wrong calls and missed calls and I am okay with that. That's just sports
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:06 pm to LSUSoulja08
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I don't want every single play to be up for review at all.
It doesn't need to be every play, but that was a huge missed penalty at a pivotal moment. It should be able to be challenged just like other plays.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:07 pm to LSUSoulja08
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This will only serve to slow the game even more. I don't want every single play to be up for review at all.
No one is saying that.
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There are going to be wrong calls and missed calls and I am okay with that. That's just sports
So why have replay at all?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:07 pm to Brightside Bengal
You just get into a danger zone of too many replays. We already have a 60 minute game that takes 3+ hours to complete.
Plus if they really want to they could find some penalty to call in most scoring situations.
Though something should be done in that type of situation when it something as egregious as that face mask was.
Plus if they really want to they could find some penalty to call in most scoring situations.
Though something should be done in that type of situation when it something as egregious as that face mask was.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:07 pm to Brightside Bengal
I think it comes down to where do you draw the line.
Who's to say a missed false start is any more important than a missed personal foul?
Will we review every scoring play for holding, block in the back, and anything else?
And why just scoring plays? What about a missed hold on a 3rd down conversion to keep a drive alive?
Who's to say a missed false start is any more important than a missed personal foul?
Will we review every scoring play for holding, block in the back, and anything else?
And why just scoring plays? What about a missed hold on a 3rd down conversion to keep a drive alive?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:08 pm to Brightside Bengal
The NFL is already talking about making PI and personal fouls reviewable. If anything, it'll give Jerome Boogar another way to screw over the Patriots.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:09 pm to bamafan425
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I think it comes down to where do you draw the line.
A missed personal foul that would negate a score is a great place to start. And the side judge that had a front row seat for it should be fined for being terrible at his job.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:09 pm to Brightside Bengal
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So why in the world would we still handcuff ourselves from making the right call when there are blatant uncalled penalties that lead to these big plays?
80 yard touchdown pass
Challenge for holding on the offense
????????
Profit
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:09 pm to bamafan425
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Will we review every scoring play for holding, block in the back, and anything else?
Hell with the way college offenses are taking advantage of the 3 yards linemen can go up field we might as well review that....
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:10 pm to RTR America
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Though something should be done in that type of situation when it something as egregious as that face mask was.
You could probably curtail the time issue if it falls as a coach's challenge only in those cases.
The larger issue though on the college level is the addition of more subjective calls that allow a lot of human error. And not much punishment for long term officials who continue to be shitty officials.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:11 pm to Brightside Bengal
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When will egregious missed penalties be reviewable? (ie Bama face mask)
Agreed 100%. But, I think penalties should only be reviewable if challenged by a coach.
As an example, when Dallas threw a 50 yard screen pass against the Saints with an obvious illegal man down the field, Payton should be able to challenge the call to get it right. Or if a player was offsides and it was missed, that should also be reviewable.
the NFL has no rhyme or reason why some calls or reviewable while others aren't…just seems very irrational at times.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:12 pm to TigerBait1127
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So why have replay at all?
glad you didn't take my opinions to the extreme, thanks
ETA: My point is that it's a slippery slope. before long, every little thing becomes reviewable and games really get drug out
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:17 pm to LSUzealot
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But, I think penalties should only be reviewable if challenged by a coach.
I agree with that 100%. I think the NFL model for reviews is better right now. Two coach's challenges a game should be enough (third if successful on first two) to include the ability to challenge penalties.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:17 pm to LNCHBOX
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A missed personal foul that would negate a score is a great place to start.
But what about there was a missed personal foul on the play before? Or a missed holding that could have prevented a QB sack or fumble?
That could affect the game just as much as the missed foul on the scoring play.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:19 pm to bamafan425
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But what about there was a missed personal foul on the play before?
There wasn't.
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Or a missed holding that could have prevented a QB sack or fumble?
There wasn't.
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That could affect the game just as much as the missed foul on the scoring play.
Why am I not surprised bama fans are in here saying this doesn't need to happen?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:20 pm to LNCHBOX
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Why am I not surprised bama fans are in here saying this doesn't need to happen?
Your reading comprehension needs some work
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:20 pm to LNCHBOX
This is a broader argument, friend. I'm not here to argue the Bama-Ole Miss facemask. It was a facemask. Ref missed a call. This topic isn't about that specific play.
These are fair questions to ask when this topic is brought up.
Why place greater importance on a tiny percentage of plays?
These are fair questions to ask when this topic is brought up.
Why place greater importance on a tiny percentage of plays?
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:21 pm to RTR America
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Your reading comprehension needs some work
Bama fan asks where the line should be drawn, I give a perfectly acceptable line. He then questions it. Where do I need to work on my comprehension exactly?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:22 pm to bamafan425
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This topic isn't about that specific play.
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When will egregious missed penalties be reviewable? (ie Bama face mask)
You sure about that?
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