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re: When will egregious missed penalties be reviewable? (ie Bama face mask)
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:43 pm to bamafan425
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:43 pm to bamafan425
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Team A has the ball 2nd and 10. Team A runs a screen for 7 yards, but the refs miss an obvious hold.
If a coach wants to potentially waste a challenge on that small a play, let him try.
Right now, there are plenty of short receptions that could be challenged every game. But coaches dont waste their challenges on minor plays.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:44 pm to TigerBait1127
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Why are all turnovers automatically reviewed in the NFL?
Completely different than penalties.
You couldn't have a rule stating "all plays with penalties are automatically reviewed."
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:50 pm to bamafan425
So there are play that mean more than others?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:51 pm to TigerBait1127
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So there are play that mean more than others?
For gods sake, YES! TURNOVERS AND SCORING PLAYS!
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:55 pm to Brightside Bengal
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For gods sake, YES! TURNOVERS AND SCORING PLAYS!
I just don't think you can discount 95% of the plays in football saying they aren't worth reviewing.
A missed penalty on a non-scoring or non-turnover play could mean just as much as one on a scoring playing in terms of keeping a drive alive or allowing the scoring/turnover play to happen one way or another.
If you wanna make it where a coach is able to review EVERY play, then yeah. I think that's fine (if you were to have penalties reviewable -- not sure I agree with that). Automatically reviewing scoring and turnover plays for penalties doesn't seem right to me. Coaches should still have to specifically challenge for the penalty.
Just a difference in opinion.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:57 pm to bamafan425
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A missed penalty on a non-scoring or non-turnover play could mean just as much as one on a scoring playing in terms of keeping a drive alive or allowing the scoring/turnover play to happen one way or another.
Dude, just no. A play that scores points is more important than a play that keeps a drive alive that might score points.
Why is it so hard for you to just admit that a system that allowed for the most blatant of missed calls (such as the bama fask mask) to be challenged should exist?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:59 pm to LNCHBOX
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A play that scores points is more important than a play that keeps a drive alive that might score points.
Scoring play doesnt happen without the other play.
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Why is it so hard for you to just admit that a system that allowed for the most blatant of missed calls (such as the bama fask mask) to be challenged should exist?
I have yet to hear of a system that I think would work efficiently. Who determines the "most blatant of missed calls"?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:00 pm to LNCHBOX
I am fine with every play being reviewable for penalties if it is limited to 2 coaches challenges.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:02 pm to bamafan425
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Scoring play doesnt happen without the other play.
Nothing led up to the play we are discussing.
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I have yet to hear of a system that I think would work efficiently.
What's wrong with using the same challenge system that is currently used for calls on the field?
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Who determines the "most blatant of missed calls"?
I'm not saying that should be part of the rule, but feel free to keep dodging acknowledging how blatant that no call was.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:02 pm to Brightside Bengal
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I am fine with every play being reviewable for penalties if it is limited to 2 coaches challenges.
That's all I'm really saying. Still don't know if I agree with penalties being reviewed, but if they were, this would be the only fair way of doing it.
I guess 2 or 3 challenges would be good. Would they be challenges for penalties specifically or included with the other challenges?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:04 pm to bamafan425
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Still don't know if I agree with penalties being reviewed
How can you not be OK with it after that incredibly blatant no call that led not only to a turnover but also a score? How?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:05 pm to LNCHBOX
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Nothing led up to the play we are discussing.
I am not discussing a specific play. We've established that.
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but feel free to keep dodging acknowledging how blatant that no call was.
You're shitting me, right? It was my 2nd or 3rd post in this topic. You even replied to it. LINK
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:07 pm to bamafan425
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I am not discussing a specific play. We've established that.
You refuse to acknowledge how important of a botched call that is, and how it is a perfect example of why penalties need to be reviewed.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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How can you not be OK with it after that incredibly blatant no call that led not only to a turnover but also a score? How?
Because that is not the only scenario a rule like that would affect. I don't think its absurd to have some apprehension about reviewing penalties. The NFL, NCAA, and every other football league obviously feel the same way or they'd have a process for reviewing penalties already in place.
Do I think Bama deserved that touchdown? No. Not sure what else I can say to convince you of that, friend. It was a missed call, but missed calls happen.
Hell, Bama had to get the ball in the endzone 3 times during the game as well before it was finally called. shite happens.
But again, this topic is not about the Alabama-Ole Miss game.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:10 pm to bamafan425
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Because that is not the only scenario a rule like that would affect.
So we should just let a ref turn a blind eye to a blatant call and be able to do nothing about it? How is that better?
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don't think its absurd to have some apprehension about reviewing penalties. The NFL, NCAA, and every other football league obviously feel the same way or they'd have a process for reviewing penalties already in place.
Because people like you exist.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:11 pm to LNCHBOX
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Because people like you exist.
I have no say in what the NFL and NCAA do with their rule book. I'm afforded an opinion as a fan only.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:12 pm to bamafan425
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I have no say in what the NFL and NCAA do with their rule book. I'm afforded an opinion as a fan only.
Thank god I said people like you, as opposed to you.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:15 pm to LNCHBOX
You seem to take a difference of opinions a little too seriously.
Enjoyed it, friend.
Enjoyed it, friend.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:17 pm to bamafan425
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You seem to take a difference of opinions a little too seriously.
Just so we're clear, you're just choosing to not answer the questions now?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 2:22 pm to LNCHBOX
We have a difference of opinions. In my experience, very little progress is made on the MSB when it comes to discussions like this. Especially with someone hostile.
And to my knowledge, my last post was in response to a post that did not even have a question.
Just so we're clear, I'm getting on with my afternoon as I have other things going on that require my attention.
And to my knowledge, my last post was in response to a post that did not even have a question.
Just so we're clear, I'm getting on with my afternoon as I have other things going on that require my attention.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 2:22 pm
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