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Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:24 pm to bamafan425
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Are you serious?
It's in the title. I'm sorry that escaped you. Choose some better words if that isn't what you meant.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:24 pm to bamafan425
I think the penalties need to be "indisputable" in order for the flag to be applied. Couple that with a limited number of challenges and you've got the framework of a system that would work and not be excessively slow.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:27 pm to LNCHBOX
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It's in the title. I'm sorry that escaped you. Choose some better words if that isn't what you meant.
It's an example. Do you understand that?
The point still stands, even after this confusion has been cleared up, and you refuse to address the questions and problems I have with your idea to only review personal fouls that negate scores.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:27 pm to LNCHBOX
I was the first Bama fan who posted in here and mentioned something should possibly be done about a situation like the face mask. I also mentioned that it could be a slippery slope, just like multiple posters from other fan bases. Being a Bama fan has zero bearing on our opinions on this the OP just used the specific play as an example. You could find a lot of examples if you wanted to where refs miss calls that lead to TD's.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:27 pm to bamafan425
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The point still stands, even after this confusion has been cleared up, and you refuse to address the questions and problems I have with your idea to only review personal fouls that negate scores.
You asked for a line, I gave you one. Do you disagree with my line?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:30 pm to Brightside Bengal
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I think the penalties need to be "indisputable" in order for the flag to be applied. Couple that with a limited number of challenges and you've got the framework of a system that would work and not be excessively slow.
I'm just playing some devils advocate. I think it's something to explore, but man, it's a slippery slope.
Having a limited number of challenges means that only some missed penalties will be reviewed. A 1Q penalty could have just as much impact on a game, but a coach doesnt wanna challenge so he can save them for later in the game.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:31 pm to LNCHBOX
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You asked for a line, I gave you one. Do you disagree with my line?
Yes, for the reasons I posted. Along with others.
What about a obvious defensive offside on a interception?
What about defensive holding on an interception?
Neither are personal fouls.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:31 pm to LNCHBOX
Onee penalty challenge per game for each coach. Good luck getting an official to determine without doubt that he missed the call though.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:31 pm to bamafan425
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. I think it's something to explore, but man, it's a slippery slope.
Is it slippery on the missed facemask?
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Having a limited number of challenges means that only some missed penalties will be reviewed.
It works with the challenge system already in place, so why the issue now?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:32 pm to Mr. Wayne
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Good luck getting an official to determine without doubt that he missed the call though.
He'd have no choice on the Bama face mask. It was too blatant.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:32 pm to LNCHBOX
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Is it slippery on the missed facemask?
You are completely missing the big picture.
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It works with the challenge system already in place, so why the issue now?
Does the challenge system work now?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:33 pm to bamafan425
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Yes, for the reasons I posted
Then you're dumb. That play should be able to be challenged and overturned.
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What about a obvious defensive offside on a interception?
Sure.
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What about defensive holding on an interception?
Sure.
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Neither are personal fouls.
I just offered that play as a no brainer. And of course you're arguing with me about it.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:33 pm to bamafan425
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You are completely missing the big picture.
The rantard is going to keep going on with this because the OP mentioned Bama while ignoring the fact that multiple people have agreed with you.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:34 pm to bamafan425
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Does the challenge system work now?
It certainly works better than no challenges. /argument
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:35 pm to RTR America
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The rantard is going to keep going on with this because the OP mentioned Bama while ignoring the fact that multiple people have agreed with you.
What multiple people have agreed with him besides you?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:38 pm to LSUSoulja08
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ETA: My point is that it's a slippery slope. before long, every little thing becomes reviewable and games really get drug out
So your whole argument is built on a fallacy?
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:38 pm to LNCHBOX
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Then you're dumb. That play should be able to be challenged and overturned.
What about the play before though? What makes the play before, which set up the current play, less important?
Imagine this scenario.
Team A has the ball 2nd and 10. Team A runs a screen for 7 yards, but the refs miss an obvious hold.
Team A has 3rd and 3. They run a draw that goes for a touchdown.
Should Team B have been able to challenge the hold on 2nd down? What about there was a hold on 3rd down when they scored?
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:40 pm to bamafan425
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What about the play before though? What makes the play before, which set up the current play, less important?
This play we are talking about involved a turnover and a score. It was one of the more important plays in the game. I know you know that, so just admit it already. quote:
Should Team B able to challenge the hold on 2nd down?
If they choose to.
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What about there was a hold on 3rd down when they scored?
If they choose to.
It's really not that hard.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 1:41 pm to bamafan425
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What about the play before though? What makes the play before, which set up the current play, less important?
Why are all turnovers automatically reviewed in the NFL?
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