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League to vote on proposed lottery changes this month
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:46 pm
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Proposal details: four worst teams would have equal 12 percent chance to win No. 1 pick. Worst team could fall no lower than No 7.
Four teams w/ best record would have, in order, 0.5%, 1%, 1.5%, 2.5% chance at No. 1 pick and better chance than today of moving into top-6
Under current rules, worst team has 25% chance at No. 1. Second-worst: 19.9%. Third-worst: 15.6%. Proposal would give 4 worst equal 12% odds
And to be clear: Any change approved in October (or later in season) could — and probably would — go into effect for this draft lottery
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Thankfully we got our franchise player before the league overreacted to sports journalists overreacting to bad teams being bad. Just think if we were trying to build around TRob and Eric Gordon right now, which is what things were looking like before winning the lottery. We might be one of the teams stuck in no man's land when the league made it harder to escape.
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Posted on 10/3/14 at 2:50 pm to TigerinATL
If you want to get rid of tanking, just make it so all 14 teams have the same odds. And make all 14 picks in the lottery not just the first 3.
Would make for some hilarity when a .500 team has the #1 pick and a 12 win 6ers team is picking 12th or so, but would make the NBA draft lottery "must see TV" in my opinion.
Would make for some hilarity when a .500 team has the #1 pick and a 12 win 6ers team is picking 12th or so, but would make the NBA draft lottery "must see TV" in my opinion.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:00 pm to TigerinATL
huge over reaction to the sixers
what i dont understand is why the other owners care if a team goes on a multi-year tank
all that means isther is one less good team to worry about. i wish one of the teams in the pels division would tear it down philly-style
more wins for us
what i dont understand is why the other owners care if a team goes on a multi-year tank
all that means isther is one less good team to worry about. i wish one of the teams in the pels division would tear it down philly-style
more wins for us
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:03 pm to cgrand
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what i dont understand is why the other owners care if a team goes on a multi-year tank
Adam Silver has appeared to be pretty ambitious from the moment Stern retired. I think he's trying to make his mark on the league and maybe trying to get the owners used to following his lead early.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:04 pm to cgrand
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Hard to overstate degree of leaguewide displeasure with Sixers right now. Perhaps not entirely fair -- they're following rules -- but big. — Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) October 3, 2014
Under current rules, worst team has 25% chance at No. 1. Second-worst: 19.9%. Third-worst: 15.6%. Proposal would give 4 worst equal 12% odds — Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) October 3, 2014
Proposal details: four worst teams would have equal 12 percent chance to win No. 1 pick. Worst team could fall no lower than No 7. — Zach Lowe (@ZachLowe_NBA) October 3, 2014
reaction from philadephia
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The timing of the change may be one year too late for many, but for Sixers fans, and for people who are fans of things being fair to people who operate by the rules, this is a major blow. And while the rule changes have clear merit, the implementation cannot be construed as anything other than an attempt to keep the Sixers from being too successful via tanking.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:05 pm to saintsfan92612
quote:teams on the playoff bubble would be tanking instead. tanking is just a fact of sports you can't eliminate it completely. the system is fine as is
If you want to get rid of tanking, just make it so all 14 teams have the same odds. And make all 14 picks in the lottery not just the first 3.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:08 pm to TigerinATL
Adam Silver is not good for this league. He's hellbent on making a drastic change that he can claim as "his" when there is really no point.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:13 pm to TigerinATL
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Four teams w/ best record would have, in order, 0.5%, 1%, 1.5%, 2.5% chance at No. 1 pick and better chance than today of moving into top-6
does he mean four LOTTERY team with the best record or is every team league-wide (including those in the playoffs) now in the lottery?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:14 pm to quail man
Pretty sure he means the 11-14 spots have 2.5%, 1.5%, 1%, and .5% chance at the #1 pick.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:24 pm to Broski
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Adam Silver is not good for this league. He's hellbent on making a drastic change that he can claim as "his" when there is really no point.
He avoided a massive nightmare in Donald Sterling by taking care of that crap as soon as possible. Decisiveness ruled the day there. Can you imagine the quagmire the NFL would have created had that happened under Goodell's watch?
TV deals double the size of the previous ones. He's not changing the game...yet. Until he does that, I don't care what he does.
I can speak from personal experience that I would be flat out pissed if the Pelicans were taking the 76ers approach to things. Pay to keep your nice seats while we don't even attempt to put a product on the floor or let them go and get back in line. Huge middle finger to the STHs that remain loyal to the team.
Not that much is changing under the proposed system. This way still provides a good chance of winning the lotto to the really bad teams. You just don't get extra credit for being god awful anymore. Good.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:29 pm to ShamelessPel
I don't think its a huge overreaction.
What the Sixers are doing is the most drastic version of intentional tanking in league history.
What the Sixers are doing is the most drastic version of intentional tanking in league history.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:32 pm to TigerinATL
Do the middle 6 picks keep the same odds?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:36 pm to Fun Bunch
And the simple solution is only X top Y picks within a Z year span. Reshuffling the odds so that 4th worst is no different than 1st worst just means they'll aim for 22 wins instead of 15 wins. That'll please the fans. Take them out of the top Y altogether and they'll be pretty motivated to perform.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:43 pm to TigerinATL
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TigerinATL
Yeah but than you are one Jeff Bower from being a non competitor for the next 10 years.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:51 pm to ShamelessPel
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Yeah but than you are one Jeff Bower from being a non competitor for the next 10 years.
Missing out on the top 6 pick while being a perennially bad team would motivate ownership to fire Jeff Bower quicker than if he got another top pick and could claim to be stockpiling talent.
This post was edited on 10/3/14 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 10/3/14 at 3:54 pm to Broski
Adam Silver is perfect for this league right now. The lottery is broken. It will never be perfect, as one player can change a franchise overnight, and tanking for 1-2 seasons may net you 10 playoff seasons, but it absolutely needs to be improved.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 4:00 pm to TigerinATL
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Missing out on the top 6 pick while being a perennially bad team would motivate ownership to fire Jeff Bower quicker than if he got another top pick and could claim to be stockpiling talent.
Than you have inconsistency and C grade GMs cycling through over and over.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 4:13 pm to TigerinATL
The only change I wouldn't mind seeing is preventing a team from getting a lottery pick multiple years in a row.
So that way teams like Philly and Cleveland would have to start picking 4th at some point.
So that way teams like Philly and Cleveland would have to start picking 4th at some point.
Posted on 10/3/14 at 4:13 pm to ShamelessPel
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Than you have inconsistency and C grade GMs cycling through over and over.
You want me to fix bad GMing or tanking?
Posted on 10/3/14 at 4:26 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:Realistically, how often does that happen?
Adam Silver is perfect for this league right now. The lottery is broken. It will never be perfect, as one player can change a franchise overnight, and tanking for 1-2 seasons may net you 10 playoff seasons, but it absolutely needs to be improved.
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