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Goldman tapes show culture of corruption, crony capitalism

Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:46 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:46 am
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I wish I could say I was surprised that Republican lawmakers weren't making anything of this. This shows once again that right wing politics isn't really about free market policies, it's about benefiting certain actors at the expense of everyone else.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:49 am to
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Republican lawmakers

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right wing

wait

we need a new definition of "right wing"

last time it was small government-types
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:49 am to
Where in that article did it insinuate republicans weren't doing anything and democrats were? Skimmed on phone and didn't see anything but didn't look close and can't ATM.
Posted by inthemorning
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:51 am to
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This shows once again that right wing politics isn't really about free market policies, it's about benefiting certain actors at the expense of everyone else.


I like how a firm using the government for advantages is portrayed as a failure of small-government ideas.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:53 am to
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I like how a firm using the government for advantages is portrayed as a failure of small-government ideas.

exactly

this is a great side-point to that comment

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Wealthy individuals can qualify with the Securities and Exchange Commission as accredited investors. This means they can invest in more things and have fewer protections afforded to them.


the policy behind accredited investors is a type of consumer protection: we don't want poor people taking risks in investing

it's sold as a nanny-state behavior

what does it do? it creates different rules for the rich and everyone else, which gives the rich a decisive investing advantage

PROGRESS!
Posted by UsingUpAllTheLetters
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:54 am to
Corporate favoritism is a definite problem, DS. That's true. But take off the shades, dude. This shite is EVERYWHERE. Do Solyndra and A123 ring any bells?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:54 am to
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I like how a firm using the government for advantages is portrayed as a failure of small-government ideas.



Up is red, left is potato, water is dry, the sky is plaid, you can replace a Gerry Bertier, a pig and elephant DNA splices just fine, and frick her right outside the pussy.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:54 am to
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I wish I could say I was surprised that Republican lawmakers weren't making anything of this. This shows once again that right wing politics isn't really about free market policies, it's about benefiting certain actors at the expense of everyone else.



You think this is only GOP problem?

You're delusional.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:57 am to
From the second paragraph of your link.

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The tapes, secretly recorded by then-bank examiner Carmen Segarra, don't capture any craven wrongdoing by the bank.

Wow! Huff Post really nailed Goldman Sachs with that expose'!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:57 am to
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Where in that article did it insinuate republicans weren't doing anything and democrats were? Skimmed on phone and didn't see anything but didn't look close and can't ATM.


The article doesn't discuss either party. It's just a hackishy partisan OP.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:59 am to
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The article doesn't discuss either party. It's just a hackishy partisan OP.





So just like every other Draconian Sanctions OP?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:00 am to
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Wow! Huff Post really nailed Goldman Sachs with that expose'!



yeah

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For instance: ProPublica reporter Jake Bernstein describes a meeting where a senior Goldman compliance executive "mentioned that Goldman's view was that once clients were wealthy enough, certain consumer laws didn't apply to them."

That sounds cavalier, and Segarra was "shocked" to hear it.


how did a regulator not know what an accredited investor is?

how does huffpo explain this simple issue and defend the apparently mentally incompetent "whistle blower"?

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Both the New York Fed and Goldman are familiar with accredited investor rules (or they certainly should be, at any rate). It should have been easy to clarify if this was in fact what the executive was talking about, but we can’t know for certain if the explanation is this benign, because the Fed never asked.


oh yeah, and

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So if there was the possibility of an innocent explanation like this, why were Segarra's colleagues so loath to ask questions about what that executive said?


i don't think they were "so loathe" to ask the questions. they didn't want to get called the r-word for asking a stupid question

which they mold into this:

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If the Fed is too afraid to ask Goldman Sachs questions when the bank could well be in the right, how can it be expected to ask questions when the answer might point to even a hint of wrongdoing?

liberals will eat that line up and spout the arguments of this article without having any clue of what the story is about

...just like Segarra
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118782 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:01 am to
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Up is red, left is potato, water is dry, the sky is plaid, you can replace a Gerry Bertier, a pig and elephant DNA splices just fine, and frick her right outside the pussy.


To your point Vols...from the comment section of the article:

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Nationalize Goldman Sachs. Enough is enough. Bring back our democracy.


Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:01 am to
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the policy behind accredited investors is a type of consumer protection: we don't want poor people taking risks in investing it's sold as a nanny-state behavior what does it do? it creates different rules for the rich and everyone else, which gives the rich a decisive investing advantage


Unfortunately they continue to implement policies that do this time and time again while advocating for even more. It's either borderline insane or just plain corrupt.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:02 am to
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I wish I could say I was surprised that Republican lawmakers weren't making anything of this.
Me, too. After all, Goldman Sachs is known for its support of the Democrat party, including its current CEO, Lloyd Blankfein.

quote:

Goldman Sachs’ investment in Obama pays off huge

Top contributors to Obama campaign 2008

Goldman Sachs $1,034,615
LINK

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:03 am to
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It's either borderline insane or just plain corrupt.

no no no

it's about protecting people from possibly making mistakes. consumer protection, bro. forward
Posted by Robin Masters
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Member since Jul 2010
29769 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:03 am to
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I wish I could say I was surprised that Republican lawmakers weren't making anything of this. This shows once again that right wing politics isn't really about free market policies, it's about benefiting certain actors at the expense of everyone else.



Great opportunity to unite against the corruption of big government yet you chose to go the other route and celebrate how less wrong your side is.

Congrats on being part of the problem.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:05 am to
To be fair, the only lawmakers I've seen trying to do something about this are Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

I have no doubts numerous Democrats were complicit in it right alongside many Republicans.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:06 am to
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I like how a firm using the government for advantages is portrayed as a failure of small-government ideas.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72103 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 9:07 am to
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I have no doubts all Democrats were complicit in it right alongside all Republicans.
FIFY
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