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re: Update pg 23: Russia,IMO, will default on its sovereign debt within six months

Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:26 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:26 pm to
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I doubt it. He would just blame the US and the West for it and he'd be partially correct.

Russians love to hate foreigners.



They love conspiracies and what ever state run media will them them to believe.

Where is that one dude who was posting all summer about the Russian economy on the rise rabble rabble rabble.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Too many foreign banks loaned too much money to Russian banks and to the Russian government. Those foreign institutions knew that Russia would never be able to pay back what was owed. The foreigners did it in order to destroy Russia's economy.

See how they think?


I think that is a direct Barney Frank quote in regards to the 08' subprime mortgage crisis in reference to subprime borrowers.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:31 pm to
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Russia, IMO, will default on its sovereign debt (again) within six months
The last time Russia defaulted on its debt was in 1998.

The Russian government halted all government bond sales since July and it just held its first bond sale on Sept 24 since that time. The yields exceeded 9%, a full 100 basis points over the previous auction. The 9.37% rate compares to the US rate on similar term bonds of 2.55%.

The ruble has lost 9% of its value against the US dollar since the Crimea invasion and lost a full 1% today.

The Central Bank of Russia announced today it is considering intervening into the currency market to prop up the ruble's value. That is the last governmental measure available before a currency collapses, like the ruble did in 1998.
Any suggestions as to how to best make money off of this? Short the ruble?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Any suggestions as to how to best make money off of this? Short the ruble?


I try to stay away from such pronouncements because people tend to blame others if their investments don't work out. I wouldn't know how to short the ruble anyway.

ETA: I will say in times of financial turmoil, safe haven investments and currencies, like U.S. government securities and the U.S. dollar, tend to increase in value when people run to them and away from perceived 'riskier' investments.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123930 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:41 pm to
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I try to stay away from such pronouncements because people tend to blame others
I'm going to blame you either way. Just so you'll know.











Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 2:43 pm to
Fair enough. Just don't start any threads on the Help Board accusing me of stalking you by down voting all your posts.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:15 pm to
Thanks Russian. I kind of figured that they were an indoctrinated and victimized people.

Not very "brushed up" on my Russian history, but was pretty sure their foreign policy boiled down to "it's their fault because they aren't Russians, and also because frick them".
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40138 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:18 pm to
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The ruble has lost 9% of its value against the US dollar since the Crimea invasion and lost a full 1% today.



good, Obama needs to keep the pressure on and not relax the sanctions.

Posted by Radiojones
The Twilight Zone
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:39 pm to
How long did you live in Russia? What were you impressions of the Russian people?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:46 pm to
Off and on I worked there for about 6 years from 1995 to 2001.

The Russian people are the most xenophobic people I've ever been around. But once they get to know you and realize you're there to assist them and not cheat them, they can't do enough for you. It's a Jekyl and Hyde personality syndrome. A complete transformation in personality.

As a people they are extremely racist. They refer to all darker complexioned people, such as Armenians and Italians, as the Russian equivalent of the "N" word.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:51 pm to
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Those foreign institutions knew that Russia would never be able to pay back what was owed.


quote:

See how they think?


Sounds like the housing "crisis" here...
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:25 pm to
This just in to update the financial situation in Russia:
quote:

The central bank is considering temporary action to curb capital outflows, which are forecast to reach as much as $120 billion this year, two officials with direct knowledge of the discussions have told Bloomberg News. Even temporary controls would be a humiliating turn of events for President Vladimir Putin, who has sought to develop Moscow as a financial hub.

Capital flight, which topped $74 billion during the first half, is part of a growing list of economic woes in Moscow.


October 1, 2014, Bloomberg
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/1/14 at 2:37 pm to
Interesting thread.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:53 pm to
Thanks.

Here's today's update: As I predicted a couple of days ago in this thread, the Central Bank of Russia started buying rubles today with their reserve dollars in order to support the ruble's value. It didn't work.
quote:

The Bank of Russia intervened for the first time since May to stem the world’s worst currency slide, only to see the ruble extend losses after the central bank shut its market operations for the day.

The currency has lost 14 percent per dollar in the second half of 2014, the most among peers tracked by Bloomberg.
LINK

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35405 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:01 pm to
So, can we now say that "Obama beat Putin"?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72118 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:02 pm to
I think reality beat Putin.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:06 pm to
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So, can we now say that "Obama beat Putin"?
Do you think Putin is beaten?
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125412 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:07 pm to
What happened to Putin out witting Obama

Putin only has himself to blame
Posted by FT
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:08 pm to
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Putin only has himself to blame
But imagine how much faster Putin would have screwed himself if Romney had won.

Conservatives are so stupid.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125412 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:09 pm to
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I think reality beat Putin.



Russians don't live in reality

They live in what the Kremlin news tells them
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 2:11 pm
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