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Pres. Obama's Speech This Morning... We're still going after Assad.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:34 am
Anyone else pick up on that?
This isn't a direct quote, but it's as close as I can remember.
"We are going to try to expedite our efforts to arm the Syrian rebels, as they are in the best position to bring down ISIL and the Assad regime."
wat
This isn't a direct quote, but it's as close as I can remember.
"We are going to try to expedite our efforts to arm the Syrian rebels, as they are in the best position to bring down ISIL and the Assad regime."
wat
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:37 am to FT
He wouldn't dare cross Putin.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:37 am to FT
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.
More money for the war profiteers
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:38 am to FT
Ok, this is in no way on the same level and I'm not trying to compare the two apples to apples, but didn't Bush get blasted for taking on Iraq at the same time as Afghanistan? As in, taking on too many goals instead of concentrating on one and then the other 
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:39 am to FT
I used to wonder why your avatar was upside down.
I don't anymore.
I don't anymore.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:42 am to FT
Anyone who thinks they gave up on getting Assad out after the failed attempts last year is a fool.
Perfect cover to get him out.
Perfect cover to get him out.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:44 am to Lsut81
quote:Yeah, it's really not even similar enough to compare. Assad isn't a threat to us and likely isn't one in the region. If anything, he's a positive to keep in power. How fricked would ISIS be right now trying to take on Saddam Hussein and Assad at the same time?
Ok, this is in no way on the same level and I'm not trying to compare the two apples to apples, but didn't Bush get blasted for taking on Iraq at the same time as Afghanistan?
Leave dictators in power if they aren't a threat to us.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:45 am to KCT
quote:Just so we're clear, you're supporting Barack Obama's policies with regard to Syria and ISIS?
I used to wonder why your avatar was upside down.
I don't anymore.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:46 am to FT
quote:
Leave dictators in power if they aren't a threat to us.
Agree and disagree... It depends on how big of a threat they are to innocents and if we can help others without risking our own soldiers lives, i.e. targeted strikes
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:51 am to FT
quote:So who the frick are we actually arming? All anyone ever says is "moderates." Spoiler alert: They don't exist. Obama might as well say he's arming the 37th Unicorn Brigade. Is he talking about the SRF, which just signed a ceasefire with ISIS in Damascus? The FSA, which just had its leadership sacked? The Kurds, who are awesome but limited to Hasakah and Kobane?
"We are going to try to expedite our efforts to arm the Syrian rebels, as they are in the best position to bring down ISIL and the Assad regime."
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:53 am to Lsut81
So will Asaad not shoot down the foreign jets or will he?
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:55 am to Lsut81
quote:I would argue that both Assad and Hussein were relatively minor threats to their people when compared to ISIS. If they'd escalated, I'd agree with an aerial campaign of some kind.
Agree and disagree... It depends on how big of a threat they are to innocents and if we can help others without risking our own soldiers lives, i.e. targeted strikes
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:57 am to Iosh
I'm not virulently anti-Obama, but this strategy will absolutely will a clusterfrick.
It's possible I misheard it or he misspoke, but if the game plan is basically to attack ISIS and Al Assad at the same time, we're being really foolish.
It's possible I misheard it or he misspoke, but if the game plan is basically to attack ISIS and Al Assad at the same time, we're being really foolish.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:02 am to FT
quote:
I would argue that both Assad and Hussein were relatively minor threats to their people when compared to ISIS
Likely true, although Hussein did gas hundreds of thousands of his own people and attempted to take over Kuwait. But all of this was prior to the 2000's campaign and should have been dealt with to completion in 1991.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:02 am to FT
If Assad is defeated, just who the frick does this Administration think will run Syria???
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:04 am to Lsut81
quote:I think it was, really. If we weren't going to take him out then, we never should have. He was a shell of his former self, but would have loved the chance to flex his muscle against ISIS. He probably would have been an asset.
should have been dealt with to completion in 1991.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:04 am to Carville
quote:Rebels!
If Assad is defeated, just who the frick does this Administration think will run Syria???
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:13 am to Carville
quote:
If Assad is defeated, just who the frick does this Administration think will run Syria???
He has no clue but Putin will be looking to fill the void. I'm sure wants to maintain a port on the Mediterranean.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:15 am to FT
If anything, this makes it clear that we
A. Have no long term plan.
B. Have no exit strategy.
C. Are a destabilizing force, not a stabilizing force, in the Middle East
D. Will end up making more enemies than we destroy and alienating more current and potential allies than we gain.
A. Have no long term plan.
B. Have no exit strategy.
C. Are a destabilizing force, not a stabilizing force, in the Middle East
D. Will end up making more enemies than we destroy and alienating more current and potential allies than we gain.
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:17 am to FT
He said that during his prime time address a week or two ago.
1.can we believe anything he says?
2. It's wise and dumb at the say time. It recognizes our true situation, that everyone there is an enemy but at the same time how are we going to defeat both Adsad and ISIS without either ground troops or tbe stomach to tolerate a lot of noncombatent muslim deaths.
1.can we believe anything he says?
2. It's wise and dumb at the say time. It recognizes our true situation, that everyone there is an enemy but at the same time how are we going to defeat both Adsad and ISIS without either ground troops or tbe stomach to tolerate a lot of noncombatent muslim deaths.
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