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Training Camp 8/21 Updates
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:51 pm
Since Pat and Hoodoo are slacking, I'll get this started. Practice was indoor, and has ended, so these are all post-practice notes.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 43m
#saints waived Chidera Uzo-Direbe, Tim Flanders, Je'Ron Hamm and Tobais Palmer, coach Sean Payton says.
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Garland Gillen ?@garlandgillen 42m
Cooks was back today, but after stretching he hit the bike
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 42m
#Saints practice just wrapped. WR Brandin Cooks was back on limited basis after missing three days with stomach virus.
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 41m
#Saints G Ben Grubbs was also back in pads after missing last couple days with injury
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 40m
#Saints LB Victor Butler and CB Rod Sweeting did some conditioning work off to side with trainers, an increase for both of them
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 39m
#Saints practice today was all prep for Saturdays #Colts game. A lot of walkthrough, 1s vs 2s, etc. Transitioning out of camp mode
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 39m
#Saints Payton on kicker battle: I think it's pretty competitive. It's still ongoing.
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Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 36m
Payton on whether #Saints Cooks will play: We'll see. Feeling better. Need to keep him hydrated.
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Larry Holder ?@LarryHolder 36m
Bailey, PRob both did team drills. Cooks did some individuals but no team drills. Payton said "we'll see" if Cooks plays. Hydration is key.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 36m
#saints DNPs included E. Lorig, A. Tanner, K. Fortt, R. Sweeting, V. Butler, M. Ball, T. Nsekhe, T. Zimmerman.
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Evan Woodbery ?@TheSaintsBeat 36m
Payton on Marcus Ball: "He wasn't out here." No further comment.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 1:53 pm
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Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:56 pm to mm2316
quote:I'm thinking he pooped himself while stretching.
Cooks was back today, but after stretching he hit the bike
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:56 pm to mm2316
quote:He lives!!!
quote: Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 40m #Saints LB Victor Butler and CB Rod Sweeting did some conditioning work off to side with trainers, an increase for both of them
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:00 pm to Melvin
Looking at that list of DNPs I'm encouraged. Not a lot of guys on there that we absolutely cannot live without.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:04 pm to mm2316
If they feel Butler is healthy enough to play within the next few weeks I don't see Saints cutting him. Hopefully he can come back to full practice in a week or so. I wish Lorig would get back also.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:05 pm to Melvin
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quote: Mike Triplett ?@MikeTriplett 40m #Saints LB Victor Butler and CB Rod Sweeting did some conditioning work off to side with trainers, an increase for both of them He lives!!!
Does Butler make the active 53 at this point? He certainly doens't deserve it. Be better off going to a player that, you know....plays
Posted on 8/21/14 at 2:54 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
I wouldn't say he doesn't deserve it. I mean injuries happen and he's still recovering from a major knee injury but I get what you're saying. I really have no clue what our plan is for him.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:00 pm to mm2316
FYI, it's not really training camp anymore. They broke out of that once they left WV.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:10 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Does Butler make the active 53 at this point?
Of course.
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He certainly doens't deserve it.
Why not?
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:16 pm to Patrick O Rly
You and your damn semantics. Don't fault the guy for pulling up your slack.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:17 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Does Butler make the active 53 at this point? He certainly doens't deserve it. Be better off going to a player that, you know....plays
ya, I hope we cut Brees too
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:26 pm to SaintLSUnAtl
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Does Butler make the active 53 at this point? He certainly doens't deserve it.
If he's healthy enough to play, he makes the 53. If he can't play, the team has options.
As far deserving a spot, the answer is: absolutely. He got hurt in team activities and has been rehabilitating. Have to give some time to see if he is 100%. IMO
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:27 pm to drake20
Well, Brees is practicing, will play Saturday, and far more accomplished than Butler. I don't see how that's a fair comparison at all.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:57 pm to mm2316
If he doesn't make the 53, we save 1.5mil and lose 375k in dead money.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:20 pm to Patrick O Rly
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FYI, it's not really training camp anymore. They broke out of that once they left WV.
Negative. Last day of camp is officially next Tuesday. Suck a nut, Nancy.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:28 pm to Patrick O Rly
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FYI, it's not really training camp anymore.
Don't shite on my thread, Pat. It's still camp to me.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:38 pm to mm2316
From Larry Holder, 5 things about today's camp:
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1. If you're asking me to pick who's winning as of today, I'm going with Dimke... the unproven Dimke has outshined Graham through the duration of training camp and in preseason.
Wednesday's practice was another example. Dimke has the stronger leg of the two and drilled his three field-goal attempts from 33, 39 and 49 yards out. Graham went 2-of-3, missing the longest one wide left.
This job is far from determined. But Dimke seems to be the clear leader
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2. Goodwin the favorite? In another ongoing battle, it looks like veteran center Jonathan Goodwin will start against the Colts as he took the first-team snaps Thursday as the Saints spent all of practice prepping for Indy...Again, this one is far from over.
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3. Returner battle: Rookie Brandin Cooks didn't receive any punts during special teams drills as he returned from a stomach virus. He watched as Kenny Stills, Joe Morgan and Jairus Byrd took the practice reps Thursday.
The Saints' unofficial depth chart pegged Travaris Cadet as the No. 1 punt returner entering the Colts game. That doesn't look like the case anymore as Cadet played on the punt-coverage unit Thursday rather than fielding punts.
This likely signifies Cooks will be the guy in Week 1. Stills is looking more like the second returner on punts. I still think Cadet will be the primary kick returner, though.
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4. Lagniappe: We hadn't heard a whole lot from wide receiver Nick Toon recently. Then Drew Brees came back recently and Toon is once again a favorite target for Brees. Toon hauled in a TD pass during Wednesday night's practice at Mandeville High School and caught four or five passes from Brees during team drills Thursday. ... Corey White looks more like a great fit as the inside cornerback in nickel situations. White picked off Ryan Griffin during team drills. He also broke up a pass intended for Joe Morgan during team drills, and Rafael Bush nearly came up with an interception but only planted one foot in bounds.
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5. Quotable: "The plan is to play them and more important, the correct amount of reps. We kind of went through the roles yesterday and what our goals are. But both of those guys will play." -- Payton on cornerbacks Champ Bailey and Patrick Robinson playing Saturday night at Indianapolis.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:56 pm to SaintEB
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You and your damn semantics. Don't fault the guy for pulling up your slack.
It was the only time of day I could get to the gym, and I really wanted a lite workout today.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:59 pm to Hoodoo Man
I think White will do very well covering the slot. He's quick and can tackle very well for a corner so having him around the line could help against the run and maybe halfback screens.
Posted on 8/21/14 at 5:06 pm to Melvin
What's the idea behind having Byrd field punts? He wouldn't ever actually do it in a game would he? Is it about conditioning? or getting him into full speed football plays as quickly as possible without having to worry about positioning, scheme, or assignments?
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