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Staggering numbers...and I see nothing being done to reduce them

Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:32 am
The 35.4 Percent

At what point will, or did, we reach the point of no return?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20374 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:33 am to
Holy shite
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31438 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:36 am to
I had time for only a scan of the article--does it include federal loan mod/refi program beneficiaries? Didn't look like it. Add those in.

Left's response: "Also add in corporate welfare recipients...."
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48269 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:46 am to
Get ready for some Democrat to yell out that we need to reduce Veterans' payouts before we reduce payouts to the Poor.

Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:51 am to
We're all in this together.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:52 am to
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Staggering numbers...and I see nothing being done to reduce them


Untrue. The Democrats have been trying to raise minimum wage - the Republicans won't allow it.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:55 am to
That's because they don't want their rich buddies having to pay their workers more. Pretty simple
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16715 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 11:57 am to
were eventually going to have homeless people starving in the streets, or were going to go broke trying to prevent it.

neither is good.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 11:58 am
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:05 pm to
I have an idea, let's just let thousands of people cross the border that have no way of sustaining themselves. What could go wrong?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:08 pm to
And Paul Ryan is backing away from his "insensitive language" on the subject. I understand that "the 47 percent" and "takers and makers" may not be politically prudent rhetoric, but the problem is real and we can't even have a real fricking discussion about it lest we be called bigots and uncaring.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

That's because they don't want their rich buddies having to pay their workers more. Pretty simple







That's because there are no rich Democrats? If the Democrats were truly concerned why didn't they do this when they controlled both houses of Congress and the WH?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:13 pm to
This entire country is on the government teat in one way or another.
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:17 pm to
While the actual numbers are huge, I doubt they are as presented. Statements make it sound like they are including children.

I would want to see the raw numbers.

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(2) Includes anyone residing in a household in which one or more people received benefits from a means-tested program.
So it could include people working plus all children. so not quite the end-of-the-world tone of the article.
This post was edited on 8/21/14 at 12:21 pm
Posted by Porkchop Express
Penderbrook
Member since Aug 2014
3961 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

While the actual numbers are huge, I doubt they are as presented.


It's the Conservative News Service.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84831 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:23 pm to
quote:


Left's response: "Also add in corporate welfare recipients...."


why shouldn't they be included?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10808 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:24 pm to
When the government wants more of something, they subsidize it. Corn, peanuts, poverty....
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11905 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

The Democrats have been trying to raise minimum wage


Do you realize this will have a negative effect? It will lead to higher cost and higher unemployement.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

Untrue. The Democrats have been trying to raise minimum wage - the Republicans won't allow it.


I see you're not a student of Newton's Law.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
62850 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:30 pm to
From an economical perspective, a child is an additional welfare expense. It's fair to include them because they are persons receiving benefits, and because the number is being compared to the total population, including children.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

And Paul Ryan is backing away from his "insensitive language" on the subject. I understand that "the 47 percent" and "takers and makers" may not be politically prudent rhetoric, but the problem is real and we can't even have a real fricking discussion about it lest we be called bigots and uncaring.



This part of the problem here. Paul Ryan tries to point out the real issue and gets attacked from liberals who are incapable of hearing the truth. We can't solve any problems when the person who is trying to identify the problem is called racist, hateful, heartless, etc..
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