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Refinance - Good Time?

Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:14 am
Posted by swanny297
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:14 am
I am thinking about refinancing our house, our current rate is 4.875%, we did a traditional FHA loan when we bought 4yrs ago. The house prices in our area have risen due to some new sales and new construction, we will probably stay another 10yrs or so. I am currenlty paying PMI becuase we didn't have 20% down, but I think the prices are high enough where my house would appraise for enough to get out of PMI with my current principle. Thoughts..
Posted by Neil Caffrey
NOLA
Member since Dec 2013
143 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:29 am to
Do it! I did the same thing last year. Just make sure to research what you think would be some good comps to make sure you're in the ballpark of your 80% LTV. Also, don't be afraid to tell the appraiser the number that you need. If you're close, they should make it work for you. Good luck
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:37 am to
I'm waiting to see what the house around the corner sells for (it's currently under contract) and I'm going to look into refinancing if it comes in at a certain price.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3789 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:41 am to
What is available interest rates?

If it's just PMI, from 4 years ago you should be able to get new appraisal and get out of it. May be some restrictions like 5 years, but I don't think you should be locked in like now.

Doesn't hurt to look into it. At worst appraisal is $400-ish and you can stop there.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
11794 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

If it's just PMI, from 4 years ago you should be able to get new appraisal and get out of it. May be some restrictions like 5 years, but I don't think you should be locked in like now.

Doesn't hurt to look into it. At worst appraisal is $400-ish and you can stop there.


My FHA loan from 2 years ago required me to reach a minimum the 22% mark of the original sale price of the house. also, a minimum of 7 years before you can ask for PMI to be removed if the 22% mark is reached early. need to look at you closing documents, as FHA has had a number of changes in recent years. with the newest being PMI for the life of the loan mow



Posted by lsujro
north of the wall
Member since Jul 2007
3919 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

My FHA loan from 2 years ago required me to reach a minimum the 22% mark of the original sale price of the house. also, a minimum of 7 years before you can ask for PMI to be removed if the 22% mark is reached early.


yeah i think mine (3 years) is 22% and 5 years.

for those that have refi'd, how much did it cost you to do so? i'm kind of in the same boat, except my rate is really low (3.75%). the only benefit i'd get is getting out of the MIP.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6545 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:03 pm to
Hopefully some of the mortgage brokers will chime in. Good thread.
Posted by PinevilleTiger
Pineville, LA
Member since Sep 2005
6205 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:23 pm to
The general rule of thumb is if you can trim a full percentage point off of your current rate, do it. Its that simple.
Posted by CypressTiger665
Cypress, Texas
Member since Aug 2013
67 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 5:36 pm to
I refinanced about a year ago and all of the costs were rolled into the loan. It didn't cost me a penny. Went from 5.125% to 2.875%, cut the length of the loan by 8 years and kept the same cost per month. I had been paying on the house 7 years when I refinanced.
Posted by Grouper Picatta
Sarasota,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1590 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:46 pm to
I heard the rates are as low as they have been all year. I would like to hear others thoughts on where they believe they are heading say within the next year.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10257 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:24 pm to
quote:

My FHA loan from 2 years ago required me to reach a minimum the 22% mark of the original sale price of the house. also, a minimum of 7 years before you can ask for PMI to be removed if the 22% mark is reached early. need to look at you closing documents, as FHA has had a number of changes in recent years. with the newest being PMI for the life of the loan mow


That's why you just refi with a conventional loan and basically "start over". No 22% requirement or waiting period.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 1:24 pm to
I spoke with our bank yesterday, conventional loans are 3.5-3.75% depending on lender, I will be able to get out of PMI and the refinance cost is about $5500 - this will lower my note by about $275-$300 a month.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27480 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 3:16 pm to
On a similar topic, I am in the market for a new house and need a mortgage. Where are rates at for conventional loans these days? I haven't looked yet, but want to get an idea what I can expect. credit is not an issue.
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

Where are rates at for conventional loans these days


From what I have seen they range from 3.75 and up depending on credit and how many points you purchase. For me refinancing is mainly to get rid of PMI, but in doing so I am lowering my interest by about .75% - so I will get some savings that can be put back into my sons college fund.
Posted by jsquardjj
Member since Oct 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 7:08 pm to
$5500 to refinance? That sounds like a lot.
I paid a little under 2K, and it was rolled into the loan.
I owned the house for 2 years beforehand, refinanced and went from a 30 year at $1800 a month to a 15 year at $1550 a month. Such an easy decision to make when it works like that.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48895 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:38 pm to
Is it worth refinancing if you only plan to be in the home 5-8 years
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65533 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:04 am to
quote:

Is it worth refinancing if you only plan to be in the home 5-8 years


Without knowing all of your particulars such as current rate, amount owed, current valuation of the house, etc., it's impossible to say. It certainly could be though, it bears further investigation by you.

When mortgage interest rates were available at a rate of below 2% two years ago, those loans would not be smart to get out of no matter if PMI were still on them. If anyone ever charges you less than 2% interest on something you have to get with credit:

WIN
Posted by swanny297
NELA
Member since Oct 2013
2189 posts
Posted on 8/22/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

$5500 to refinance? That sounds like a lot.


Not really that included a point which lowered my rate by and additional 0.5%, so really the closing costs are about $3300.00, differences in taxes and insurance also affect this cost. I am switching from FHA to conventional, and switching mortgage companies so they have to restart my escrow as well.
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