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I'm tempted to buy this 4K 50" TV for 450 bucks just to have one.....

Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:38 am
Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
4530 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:38 am
Here is a link from Amazon:

Seiki 50" 4K TV

Has anyone ever seen one of these in person? How can it be so much cheaper than the others. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:55 am to
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Q: How does it have a built in VCR? and does it slice bananas?
A:
It doesn't have a VCR built in, but it can definitely slice bananas. The only issue is you lose about an inch of banana at the slice because the edge is a bit dull compared to other banana slicing implements.
Posted by GrammarKnotsi
Member since Feb 2013
9324 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 8:57 am to
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Q: what 3d glasses work with the tv?

A:It's not 3d so none


Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:08 am to
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How can it be so much cheaper than the others.

Use common sense.
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7372 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:31 am to
4K on a 50" is pointless. I'd like to have 4K projector on a 100" screen though


Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:40 am to
Yep, the OT idiots who brag about their 70" 1080p screens at 5-foot view distances would benefit from 4K content on a big arse 4K screen. I'll be a 4K TV holdout for many years.

4K monitors on the other hand, all day long.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:07 am to
Oh yeah, about the TV. Seiki is owned by Tsinghua Tongfang Company, a run-of-the-mill manufacturer in China. They can sell the TVs cheaply because:

a. China

b. Less outsourcing to ODMs, they make their own TVs

c. Serious component reduction processes; sure, the panel's got the appropriate amount of pixels, but the image processing will leave much to be desired -- or maybe it won't to you. Consider it to be the 4K version of your typical slapped-together Walmart Black Friday barebones TV with the stampede-inducing price, where Joe Mullet just sees pixels, inches, and price tag, and neither he nor his 9 barefoot kids will even begin to give a shite or understand the differences in black levels, or that the cyan is a little more saturated, or inconsistent motion blur, backlight bleed, etc.

EDIT: Not saying you're Joe Mullet, just letting you know what to probably expect from the TV. It's just the art of surrounding new technology in subpar components. A Ferrari body with a Hyundai engine. Or, similar to the cheaper 802.11AC routers out there. Sure, it can do 433mbps per spatial stream, but that doesn't really matter when there's a shitty radio with zero amplification on 2x2 MIMO, so the required 5GHz band can barely reach across the house, and actual throughput is a fraction of what you think you're getting because of the weak amplification, and then the 5GHz band quits altogether because it makes the router run too hot.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:20 am
Posted by Boondock Saint
The Boondocks
Member since Oct 2005
4530 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:12 am to
I wasn't really serious about buying one. Just curious if anyone had seen one in person.

I will wait a few years for a good price on an 80 or 90 inch 4K TV when a decent amount of 4K content will be available (whenever that may be).
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:41 am to
I was going to get one but got other junk instead. I've heard nothing but good things about it
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:45 am to
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Yep, the OT idiots who brag about their 70" 1080p screens at 5-foot view distances would benefit from 4K content on a big arse 4K screen. I'll be a 4K TV holdout for many years.


My wife doesn't believe me when I tell her in 10 years we'll have a 110" 4k TV.
Posted by GeauxElliott
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
3695 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:44 am to
I saw this exact TV in Sears. I did a double take when I saw the price.

It is 4k.. but the picture is equivalent to a good LED TV from a name brand.

This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 11:45 am
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:57 am to
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but the picture is equivalent to a good LED TV from a name brand.


Well at 1080p it is. 4k will blow all of those away
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 12:25 pm to
That chart is misleading. Yes 4k full benefit is only noticed up close, but you'll have "1080" viewing reduction at half the rate of an actual 1080. So likely 1080 viewing for a 50' out to 10-15' and 720 out to nearly 20'.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24343 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:35 pm to
In 10 years your wall will probably just be painted with oled film or something to make your "screen" size whatever you want it to be
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
77946 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:37 pm to
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your wall will probably just be painted with oled film o


HONEY?? where's the fricking TV??

oh..look in the cabinet by the sink. i think i rolled it up and put it in there the other day.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 1:42 pm to
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oh..look in the cabinet by the sink. i think i rolled it up and put it in there the other day


Think of all the gimmick TVs that will precede that actually useful technology. Right now we have them with slight curves, maybe next will be TVs with slightly adjustable curves.
This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 3:29 pm to
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4K on a 50" is pointless


That is not an accurate graph at all. I sat 5 feet from a 4K 60" TV and the difference was immense.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40831 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 7:00 pm to
What are you people watching to get this amazing picture quality out of your 4k sets....
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45707 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:33 pm to
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Has anyone ever seen one of these in person? How can it be so much cheaper than the others. Any thoughts or comments are appreciated.
Have seen. Purchased one for testing on some experimental video processors. It actually does a somewhat decent job of 30hz 4k, but is horrible at upscaling 1080p up to 4k.

Everything is moving to 60hz 4k. This set will not resolve that.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45707 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:36 pm to
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In 10 years your wall will probably just be painted with oled film or something to make your "screen" size whatever you want it to be
You are kindof close. OLED is printed out using ink jet printer technology. Experiments are underway to create custom printers that can print any size OLED screen to fit any architectural challenge.
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