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Should I rollover an old 401k?

Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:41 am
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
858 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:41 am
I currently have a Schwab traditional IRA w/ $20k (1st job), a New York Life 401K with $34k, and my current 401k with fidelity. Should I roll that old 401k into the Schwab account? Should I leave it where it is? My income level is over the Roth limit. I'm 28, married (she doesn't work), and have one child if that changes anything.
Posted by iknowmorethanyou
Paydirt
Member since Jul 2007
6547 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 9:47 am to
Yep, never leave those things behind.
Posted by Dr Rosenrosen
Member since May 2006
3338 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 10:10 am to
Absolutely. The IRA will give you far more investment options, almost unlimited.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 8/18/14 at 1:41 pm to
Yep, no brainer. Open up an IRA and invest it. More options and flexibility and what not.
Posted by ram03reg
Member since Sep 2009
198 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 4:25 pm to
Can't take a loan out of an IRA...factor this into your decision.

Could roll your old 401k into your current 401k...Your IRA performance vs 401k?
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:45 pm to
those 401k funds usually have really high fees.

Dump it and go with a schwab or Vanguard fund, which on average have incredibly low fees.
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3796 posts
Posted on 8/19/14 at 6:53 pm to
I'm gonna hijack this thread...

What if your new 401k had a large assortment of options (>350 fund and equity choices), and very low fees?

So far I haven't seen any other advantages. If these two are covered, is it better to roll to the new 401k? Loans, back door Roth capability with another IRA, 401k protection vs IRA, etc.
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

My income level is over the Roth limit.

If you plan on doing a backdoor Roth contribution, rolling the 401k into the IRA may have some tax implications when you do the backdoor. For now, its the only reason I havent rolled an old 401k into an IRA.
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
858 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:37 am to
There shouldn't be any tax implications if I put it in a traditional IRA, right?
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 9:41 am to
No, but make sure you fill out all the paperwork correctly.

You should not receive a check made out to you. The check should be to the trustee of your Ira acct.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:06 am to
quote:

If you plan on doing a backdoor Roth contribution, rolling the 401k into the IRA may have some tax implications when you do the backdoor. For now, its the only reason I havent rolled an old 401k into an IRA.


OP, look into this before you roll into an IRA. It can be a big deal down the road.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 10:53 am to
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This post was edited on 8/20/14 at 10:58 am
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
34884 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 11:09 am to
quote:

There shouldn't be any tax implications if I put it in a traditional IRA, right?


Correct. You can do a straight rollover.
Posted by smoke4life
Houston
Member since Feb 2006
686 posts
Posted on 8/20/14 at 6:25 pm to

This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 5:51 pm
Posted by PetreauxCat
TX
Member since May 2009
858 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:42 am to
quote:

You going to be at NAPE tomorrow?
Nope, some people have to work.
Posted by Htown Tiger
Houston
Member since Sep 2005
2312 posts
Posted on 8/21/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

There shouldn't be any tax implications if I put it in a traditional IRA, right?

There wont be any tax implications on the rollover itself, but if you plan to do a backdoor Roth in the future, there will be some implications down the line.

All depends on whether you still want to contribute to your Roth since you are over the limit now. If you don't, know worries- go forth and convert. If you do, I'd look into the implications of future backdoor Roth contributions while you have another tax deferred IRA account.
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