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Samsung's smartphone struggle may only get worse

Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted by stendulkar
Member since Aug 2012
767 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:05 pm
Credit rating agency Fitch predicts Samsung's share of the global smartphone market will fall to 25 percent next year
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Fitch Ratings, a major credit rating agency in the US, shared negative sentiment Tuesday on Samsung's chances in the smartphone market over the next year. Nitin Soni, director of corporate rating at Fitch, predicted that Samsung's worldwide smartphone market share will fall from 31 percent this year to 25 percent in 2015, reported The Wall Street Journal.

The bad news continued today as Bernstein Research analyst Mark Newman said in a note that Samsung could be in for real trouble in the smartphone market if not for "a drastic change in smartphone strategy," according to the Journal. Newman slashed his price target and said investors should "react now before it's too late."

The Korean electronics giant, which attempts to sell a phone to everyone regardless of budget or geography, is facing increased price competition. Formerly the top mobile device maker in China and India, Samsung lost its footing in both crucial markets in the second quarter. China has been especially troubling for Samsung. Research firm Canalys said Samsung slid to second place in the Chinese smartphone market for the first time since the fourth quarter of 2011, ceding the top spot to Chinese vendor Xiaomi.

In July, Samsung reported troubling second-quarter earnings as its operating profits fell 25 percent, marking it's third straight quarter of profit declines. Samsung also cautioned that its smartphone division will continue to face "a challenge" as it takes on an increasing number of mobile companies and invests heavily in marketing in order to keep its share afloat.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
83927 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:09 pm to
Good. They suck.
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:25 pm to
frick Samsung
frick touchwiz
frick their ridiculous bloatware
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:41 pm to
Every non-stock phone has a terrible GUI and loaded with bloatware
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:46 pm to
Ok we get it... You think every phone except stock android is trash....

I have the m8 and love it, sense 6 is smooth like a babies arse. It has very little bloat ware compared to my previous samsungs.

You calling phones like the m8 or g3 garbage makes me completely discredit your opinion on phones.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 7:55 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Every non-stock phone has a terrible GUI and loaded with bloatware


I had no beef with the G3 when I had it. Thought it was muted enough and stayed out of my way.

ETA: Cyanogenmod on the 1+1 doesn't look bad either.

But to the point of the thread, Samsung needs to either drop the S line and focus solely on the Note. They've basically ruined the S line...time to cut bait.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58627 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:56 pm to
I don't think the S Line is the issue, the note gave me the same problems that the s4 did.. I think Samsung will continue to see a decline until they do away with TW or give it a major overhaul.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:02 pm to
Just based on my limited, anecdotal evidence it seemed like people liked the Note 3 better than the S4/S5. But yeah, I wouldn't want either solely because of TouchWiz
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
18228 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:02 pm to
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You calling phones like the m8 or g3 garbage makes me completely discredit your opinion on phones


I would LOVE for you to find where I said they were garbage. Please, find that quote.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:32 pm to
I've heard terrible things about the S5 from friends and coworkers
Posted by wizziko
New Jersey Nets Fan
Member since Jan 2006
35881 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:00 pm to
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frick Samsung
frick touchwiz
frick their ridiculous bloatware

frick that cheap back cover
frick the cheap build quality
frick all those blooping sounds
frick frick frick
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11723 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

frick Samsung
frick touchwiz
frick their ridiculous bloatware


:kige:
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:52 pm to
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frick all those blooping sounds


Not gonna lie. They actually grew in me a littler after a few days of using the S4.

I feel so dirty admitting that.
Posted by LSUSilverfox
Member since Jun 2007
2690 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:09 pm to
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I've heard terrible things about the S5 from friends and coworkers


That's upsetting. I was going to use my upgrade and switch from apple to samsung. Now I'm having second thoughts.
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14886 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:25 pm to
Yep! I'm done with Samsung.

Counting the days til I'm done with this s4. 2 weeks left!
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 10:28 pm
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11723 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 10:44 pm to
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That's upsetting. I was going to use my upgrade and switch from apple to samsung. Now I'm having second thoughts.


Either wait a month and see if you want the iPhone 6 or get the HTC M8 or LG G3 now.
Posted by Chasin The Tiger
Lake Travis, TX
Member since Sep 2012
575 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 12:32 am to
Note 4?
Posted by That's BS
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Member since Jan 2012
1783 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 1:13 am to
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Either wait a month and see if you want the iPhone 6 or get the HTC M8 or LG G3 now.



That's what I'm doing. Gonna check out the iphone 6 and then decide between that and the G3.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 6:40 am to
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Every non-stock phone has a terrible GUI and loaded with bloatware



That isn't true. The 1+1 is pretty awesome. I liked Sense too when I had it.

Touchwiz is complete shite. It is ruins the nice phones Samsung makes
Posted by BobRoss
Member since Jun 2014
1693 posts
Posted on 8/13/14 at 6:59 am to
I love the S4. I don't get the hate
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