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U.S. Postal Service loses $2 Billion in 2nd Quarter

Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:06 pm
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Postal Service continued to bleed money during its second quarter, despite an increase in package revenues and an emergency price hike that took effect in January.

The agency said on Monday that it lost $2 billion from April to June, compared with a net loss of $740 million in the same period last year, and a $1.9 billion loss in its first quarter.

An increase in its shipping and package business helped the agency see a 2 percent rise from last year in its total operating revenues to $16.5 billion.

USPS has focused on its shipping and package business and expanded to Sunday package delivery as more people shop online and need a service to deliver their purchases. Shipping and package revenue jumped 6.6 percent, compared with the same period last year.

The volume of its most profitable product, first-class mail, fell 1.4 percent as more people communicate electronically, but the temporary rate increase helped offset the losses by bringing a 3.2 percent rise in revenues for that product. The rate increase is a temporary measure to mitigate the effects of the recession.

The jump in losses was largely due to a $1.5 billion increase in operating expenses as a result of workers compensation payments, the agency said.

USPS blames much of its financial troubles on a 2006 mandate to stow away billions of dollars for its future retirees' healthcare. The Postal Service already defaulted on three of its payments into the fund and does not expect to make the next $5.7 billion installment due September 30.


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Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:10 pm to
So the Postal Service was doomed by guaranteed payouts on retirement. This should be cut out of the argument over whether the USPS is profitable. It can't pay for the bad politics of the 80's and 90's.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:11 pm to
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USPS blames much of its financial troubles on a 2006 mandate to stow away billions of dollars for its future retirees' healthcare. The Postal Service already defaulted on three of its payments into the fund and does not expect to make the next $5.7 billion installment due September 30.


I agree that the Postal Service Act of 2006 isn't a great piece of legislation, but I'm afraid the USPS is going to always be fighting a losing battle in this day and age. I think the same piece of legislation limits other methods of raising funds, like running an internet cafe. I think having it run like a private company, or privatizing it completely like German did with Bundepost turning into DHL might be a good option.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:15 pm to
It needs to be privatized. Badly.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:16 pm to
quote:

So the Postal Service was doomed by guaranteed payouts on retirement. This should be cut out of the argument over whether the USPS is profitable. It can't pay for the bad politics of the 80's and 90's.



Actually the 80s and 90s saw most of Fed pensions and health care payments change radically. The Postal Service did not change with them. They remained with the best retirement pension and health care benefits of any federal workers.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:17 pm to
I'm honestly amazed they don't lose more money. USPS is a subsidy for jobs with good benefits and also for rural delivery.

With that comes tons of restrictions and political BS. It's not like they can just raise the price as needed and if they raise it too much then FedEx could beat the price. So, yeah, they screwed.

I suspect it'll never be abolished though. Dems will want to keep it and the Republicans will want to keep it so they can get lobbied to contract it out.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:18 pm to
And it is not sustainable. We have to swallow our pride and admit that we were completely irresponsible with government pension promises.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:18 pm to
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Message Posted by Sentrius It needs to be privatized. Badly.


It already is. You are more than welcome to use fedex or UPS. Government contracts are the worst. Just abolish it.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:22 pm to
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And it is not sustainable. We have to swallow our pride and admit that we were completely irresponsible with government pension promises.



I agree with this as it relates to the Postal Service. I can't speak to state pension plans but I do know about Feds. Most people have some incorrect assumptions about them. They really are very sustainable. The fed plan the TSP is very much like any 401(k) and they do a great job of managing those investments.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69289 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:26 pm to
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wfeliciana
I think the real pension crisis is occurring at the state and city level. Detroit is a good example, but Chicago has a looming problem, as well.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:33 pm to
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eal pension crisis is occurring at the state and city level


I've got to admit when I heard what retired firefighters/police get in NJ and NY I was amazed. I can't imagine how the states can sustain that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:35 pm to
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U.S. Postal Service loses $2 Billion in 2nd Quarter

But in a good way.


I just add that after bad news to make it better.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15046 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:47 pm to
Great Eqscuire about the postal service here -

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Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21838 posts
Posted on 8/11/14 at 11:56 pm to
But the government provides services no one else can or would be willing to!!!111!!
This post was edited on 8/11/14 at 11:57 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111513 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:08 am to
Know where I stopped reading?

"It can physically connect..."

Know what else does that? The interwebs.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32879 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 12:16 am to
They are going to lose more money if they don't find my new LSU dress I bought for 8/30. This is why I usually insist a business ships UPS or FedEx
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 5:02 am to
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U.S. Postal Service loses $2 Billion in 2nd Quarter


just as Congress intended
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12420 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 6:48 am to
Let the Post Office die....
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51798 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:13 am to
UPS and Fed Ex do a better job. Close it down and split the country down the middle.
Posted by Rex
Here, there, and nowhere
Member since Sep 2004
66001 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:14 am to
Are you a news service? Why the cut and paste and link without your own opinion or comment?
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