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Teach me the art of salary negotiations
Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:57 am
Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:57 am
So far I have tried to look up the expected salary on Glassdoor, but the range is from like 60k-100k for my position.
Is there any way that I can narrow that down?
What are my next steps?
Do I need to be cautious to a certain extent to make sure that I don't lose the offer?
TIA
Is there any way that I can narrow that down?
What are my next steps?
Do I need to be cautious to a certain extent to make sure that I don't lose the offer?
TIA
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:58 am to Seven Costanza
How much relevant experience do you have?
Posted on 8/5/14 at 10:58 am to Seven Costanza
when they bring up the question of salary, unzip your pants and lay your gargantuan OT penis on the table to assert your dominance.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:00 am to Seven Costanza
Make them throw out the first number.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:00 am to Seven Costanza
The only way to know for sure what you're worth is to get an offer from several competitors. You can ask towards the high end and they either counter with a more accurate number or tell you to get fricked.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 11:01 am
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:01 am to Seven Costanza
Tell them you post on the OT. I'd be surprised if they don't come back around 105,000
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:01 am to OneMoreTime
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How much relevant experience do you have?
This will determine where you fall in that $60-$100k range.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:03 am to Seven Costanza
Is this for your current employer? The range you found is based on experience. Where do you fall in that category? Based on your performance level, how would you tank yourself...try to be honest.
Most places are willing to pay for someone that is worth it but I you are easily replaceable, don't expect high pay.
Most places are willing to pay for someone that is worth it but I you are easily replaceable, don't expect high pay.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:10 am to OneMoreTime
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How much relevant experience do you have?
I'd say about 2.5 years.
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The only way to know for sure what you're worth is to get an offer from several competitors.
I have one offer from a competitor for 70k, but I want this job more.
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Is this for your current employer?
No this is a brand new job. First one after graduate school.
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tell you to get fricked.
This is what I want to avoid.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:11 am to saltybulldog
Simple to say, hard to do. Be valuable. Tony Soprano tolerated Ralphie Cifaretto for years because he was a "good earner." Whatever organization you are in, get tied to the income stream somehow in a way that convinces decision makers they need you to keep the money coming.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:12 am to Seven Costanza
What's your leverage? That's the most important part of the equation.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:13 am to Seven Costanza
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brand new job. First one after graduate school.
Then you gotta sell sizzle. Then deliver.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:13 am to OneMoreTime
1st find out what you're worth (education, experience, etc); won't be exact but a range.
2nd be willing to walk away if they don't offer you what you're worth. If you're bluffing and they call it, you're fricked forever.
Don't be a dickhead during negotiations; be professional.
2nd be willing to walk away if they don't offer you what you're worth. If you're bluffing and they call it, you're fricked forever.
Don't be a dickhead during negotiations; be professional.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:16 am to Seven Costanza
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So far I have tried to look up the expected salary on Glassdoor, but the range is from like 60k-100k for my position.
Is there any way that I can narrow that down?
What are my next steps?
Never give a number first.
When they ask you what are you looking to make, simply reply (very politely) ... "What did you have in mind or What does this position typically pay for someone with my experience?"
Then go from there.
This post was edited on 8/5/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:22 am to Seven Costanza
company flew me to Florida for interview
they had stated an offer on phone before i arrived
big boss comes in for interview - offers $15k less than what I was initially told
told him I couldn't even back out of my driveway for that
interview over - thanks for the free trip to florida
easy peasy
they had stated an offer on phone before i arrived
big boss comes in for interview - offers $15k less than what I was initially told
told him I couldn't even back out of my driveway for that
interview over - thanks for the free trip to florida
easy peasy
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:22 am to TotesMcGotes
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What's your leverage?
As in my other job offer? Or just selling myself?
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:23 am to Will Cover
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Never give a number first.
When they ask you what are you looking to make, simply reply (very politely) ... "What did you have in mind or What does this position typically pay for someone with my experience?"
Then go from there.
I understand what you're saying but not sure I agree and here's why: by deferring to them to start the numbers game it's putting you on the reactive (defensive position) instead the proactive (offensive position). By giving them the number you want, even if it's a little high, makes them justify their counteroffer; you're in the Alpha position.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:23 am to LSU1NSEC
Interesting, it's scary to think about walking away.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:25 am to Seven Costanza
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Interesting, it's scary to think about walking away.
That's why you NEVER bluff at salary negotiations!!!! If you're worth more than they're offering it should be a REAL option to walk away.
Posted on 8/5/14 at 11:26 am to Seven Costanza
If the salary questions comes up, deflect it with "From what I've seen of your operation, I have no doubt you will pay better than average wages. Lets talk about more interesting things like the org chart and where this position fits in."
My 2¢
My 2¢
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