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Bud Selig...best commisioner in the history of MLB? Pretty hard to argue against
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:37 pm
Saw revenues rise from a little over 1 billion to almost 9 billion,
MLB built 22 new facilities,brought revenue sharing into the game (small market clubs have a much better shot), relative labor peace between MLPA and the owners.
Can't think of another commisioner thats comes close.
Oh and please show me one shred of evidence he was responsible for the PED issue...it lies squarely on the players and their union.
Anybody have a better comissioner they can think of?
MLB built 22 new facilities,brought revenue sharing into the game (small market clubs have a much better shot), relative labor peace between MLPA and the owners.
Can't think of another commisioner thats comes close.
Oh and please show me one shred of evidence he was responsible for the PED issue...it lies squarely on the players and their union.
Anybody have a better comissioner they can think of?
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:39 pm to RD Dawg
Landis
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:40 pm to RD Dawg
I think he's extremely underrated. He's just easy to hate on because he acts so sleazy.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:40 pm to RD Dawg
Only complaint is he is biased against Pete Rose. I think the next commissioner will work something out for Pete.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:41 pm to RD Dawg
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Oh and please show me one shred of evidence he was responsible for the PED issue...it lies squarely on the players and their union.
Responsible? No, of course not.
Complicit? You damn right!
But I can't argue your larger point.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:41 pm to COTiger
Well, considering most commissioners have ranged from incompetent to corrupt to both... yeah. He might be the best of a horrible, horrible lot.
Landis was a racist pig who handed down so many bizarre, capricious rulings it is an open question whether he was merely drunk most of the time or just not paying any attention to the affairs of the league.
Landis was a racist pig who handed down so many bizarre, capricious rulings it is an open question whether he was merely drunk most of the time or just not paying any attention to the affairs of the league.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:44 pm to Baloo
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Landis was a racist pig who handed down so many bizarre, capricious rulings it is an open question whether he was merely drunk most of the time or just not paying any attention to the affairs of the league.
My favorite thing about Kenesaw Mountain Landis is his first and middle name. His father had some limbs blown off at a Civil War battle at Kennesaw Mountain, so he named his son after the battle site. Of course, Kennesaw Mountain has two "n"'s, but Kenesaw Mountain Landis only has one.
The reason I care about this is because I live close to Kennesaw Mountain and have ran on it for like nine years now.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 5:48 pm to Baloo
Ueberroth and Giamatti were neither corrupt in incompetent IMO
Both were pretty talented but really didn't do much especially regarding the small market vs big market divide that was going on during their tenure.
Both were pretty talented but really didn't do much especially regarding the small market vs big market divide that was going on during their tenure.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:40 pm to RD Dawg
Giamatti was on the job for only six months
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:44 pm to COTiger
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Landis
F Landis.
He denied people the opportunity to play in the majors based solely on the color of their skin. That's far more morally repugnant than throwing the 1919 Series or using PEDs.
And from an on-field perspective, he denied fans the opportunity to see greats like Josh Gibson, Cool Papa Bell, Buck O'Neill, and Satchel Paige (in his prime).
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:53 pm to RD Dawg
revenues going up so much have nothing to do with anything he has done and everything to do with the explosion of local cable TV deals
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:55 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
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Giamatti was on the job for 6 months
I knew it was short and he spent most of his time dealing with
Pete Rose and his issues.
Bigger point being that he was neither incompetent or corrupt
or very healthy for that matter.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:57 pm to Bestbank Tiger
You're right. He's the only person that denied blacks opportunities in the '20s - mid '40s.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:59 pm to WPBTiger
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Only complaint is he is biased against Pete Rose. I think the next commissioner will work something out for Pete.
A Bartlett Giamanni is responsoble for Pete's issues with certain things. I truly believe if he does not die, that Pete is in HOF after some things were paid back.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:01 pm to RD Dawg
I despise Selig for him blackmailing the Astros into moving into the AL West. frick that dude.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:02 pm to Dr RC
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Everything to do with the explosion of local TV deals
Everything? No doubt they're PART of it but revenues also include
national TV deals,gate receipts,licensing revenue and the internet...all of which Selig had a hand in.(directly or indirectly)
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:07 pm to RD Dawg
Kenesaw Mountain Landis. That's a grown man name.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:08 pm to Baloo
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Well, considering most commissioners have ranged from incompetent to corrupt to both... yeah. He might be the best of a horrible, horrible lot.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:13 pm to RD Dawg
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Saw revenues rise from a little over 1 billion to almost 9 billion
which is actually roughly comparable to what the NFL has done over a similar time frame. NFL revenues have gone from 1.2 billion in 1990 to 9.5 billion in 2012.
selig frequently gets too much blame for baseball issues which are really issues related to either the players or the owners. I don't care for some of the things he's been more responsible for (such as making the all star game determine home field advantage in the world series) but there was a time he was unfairly blamed for everything.
he might be the best of a bad lot really.
P.S. Pete Rose brought it on himself. He knew the penalty for gambling and still did it... him getting into the HOF only after he dies seems like appropriate punishment to me given he understood his actions and the potential consequences.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 8:02 pm to mkibod1
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I despise Selig for him blackmailing the Astros into moving into the AL West. frick that dude.
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