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re: Bud Selig...best commisioner in the history of MLB? Pretty hard to argue against
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:38 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:38 pm to KingwoodLsuFan
How many commisioners oversaw a cancelled world series? 1994 should be his legacy
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:10 pm to chalmetteowl
Players and Fehr would not budge on the salary cap and owners
pretty much took the "acting in the best interest of baseball" power out of his hands and took over the negotiations.
Lets look what happened in the 22 years before the strike.
There were 4 strikes leading up to '94 and since then (20 years)
they've had none. I think that'll be Seligs impact and legacy...the 2 parties couldn't even agree on a contract til April of the following year '95...how could've he prevented the WS cancellation if the 2 parties couldn't reach an agreement til 7 MONTHS later?
pretty much took the "acting in the best interest of baseball" power out of his hands and took over the negotiations.
Lets look what happened in the 22 years before the strike.
There were 4 strikes leading up to '94 and since then (20 years)
they've had none. I think that'll be Seligs impact and legacy...the 2 parties couldn't even agree on a contract til April of the following year '95...how could've he prevented the WS cancellation if the 2 parties couldn't reach an agreement til 7 MONTHS later?
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:26 pm to mkibod1
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I despise Selig for him blackmailing the Astros into moving into the AL West. frick that dude.
Yessir. This.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:23 pm to RD Dawg
So a commissioner that volunteered his team to move from the AL to the NL to take advantage of the Cubs fan base, then made the Astros move from the NL to the AL to create a huge hole in the south for NL fans is doing great things for the sport?
Also, I may be very selfish, but I went from watch every Cubs game on WGN as a kid, to listening to most games on WGN radio over the internet and watching some on WGN TV, to being forced to pay for internet streaming, and fewer and fewer games on WGN each year. There's a reason the Cubs have a nation wide fan base, and that fan base is shrinking every year.
Also, I may be very selfish, but I went from watch every Cubs game on WGN as a kid, to listening to most games on WGN radio over the internet and watching some on WGN TV, to being forced to pay for internet streaming, and fewer and fewer games on WGN each year. There's a reason the Cubs have a nation wide fan base, and that fan base is shrinking every year.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 11:33 pm to CubsFanBudMan
I don't give him any credit for the revenue increases. Revenues in almost every sport have increased at the same rate thanks to TV revenue and corporate ticket sales. Other than steroids and the strike, his long-term legacy will be the erosion of the under-40 fan base.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:13 am to NOTORlOUSD
And you forgot making the all-star game count... Dumbest thing ever
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:18 am to NOTORlOUSD
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I don't give him any credit for the revenue increases. Revenues in almost every sport have increased at the same rate thanks to TV revenue and corporate ticket sales
agree
his argument is largely that other commissioners have been terrible
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:19 am to NOTORlOUSD
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I don't give him any credit for the revenue increases. Revenues in almost every sport have increased at the same rate thanks to TV revenue and corporate ticket sales. Other than steroids and the strike, his long-term legacy will be the erosion of the under-40 fan base.
This right here. Frick that dude. He's a tPOS and a smarmy douche to boot.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 12:34 am to WPBTiger
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Only complaint is he is biased against Pete Rose. I think the next commissioner will work something out for Pete.
If the next one does this for Pete, he damn sure better do it for Shoeless Joe, who was one of the greatest of all time. Babe Ruth even admitted to modeling his batting from Shoeless Joe.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:10 am to mikeboss550
this right here
pete could have also done a lot more to rehabilitate himself years before (he finally started to tell something closer to the truth only more recently)
pete could have also done a lot more to rehabilitate himself years before (he finally started to tell something closer to the truth only more recently)
Posted on 7/31/14 at 2:55 am to molsusports
absolutely Joe even tried to give the money back and apologize, but the commissioner told him not to worry and go take it and live off of it then turned around and banned him from the game. It was nothing but gangsters taking advantage of an illiterate southern farmboy who was coaxed into doing it.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 5:27 am to chalmetteowl
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And you forgot making the all-star game count... Dumbest thing ever
One could argue that Selig seriously devalued the World Series. Before inter-league play the All-star game was your only chance outside of the world series to see the best of the NL face the best of the AL.
After inter-league play a lot of that luster was lost.
I have hated inter-league play since it began and wish they would eliminate it. Made the All-star game and World Series much more interesting.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 6:47 am to RD Dawg
Bowie Kuhn
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:07 am to ForkEmDemons
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After interleague play alot of luster was lost
Huh? So what? By ANY yardstick it's been a huge success...attendence wise and ratings wise.
Did it take some luster off the All Star game and World Series?
Perhaps but interleague play was going to happen no matter who the comissioner was. Just way too much revenue generated and both the owners and players are ALL about revenue.
Can't disagree about the new All Star format though.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:29 am to RD Dawg
Well, he's possibly one of the most hypocritical and immoral people ever in the history of professional sports, so if he's the best commissioner ever, what does that say about this country?
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:43 am to RD Dawg
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Huh? So what? By ANY yardstick it's been a huge success...attendence wise and ratings wise.
No doubt it was a ratings success, short term. But long term I credit it as one of the factor that is causing declining interest in baseball.
One of the greatest draws in baseball was that it was the only major pro sport in the US where the All-Star game and Championship had a real sense of intrigue to it.
Because of no inter-league play there was always buildup and drama going into those events. It made the World series must watch TV. There was always debate about which team was better in each each league due to this. Once inter-league play started it tore apart what was one of the bigger draws to the World Series.
As a result the game has suffered and the younger generations don't have that same draw and intrigue from baseball and it has hurt the popularity for the sport.
From a business sense, it was the right move. From the perspective of pure baseball and long term interest in the sport I believe it was the absolute wrong move.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:48 am to molsusports
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P.S. Pete Rose brought it on himself. He knew the penalty for gambling and still did it... him getting into the HOF only after he dies seems like appropriate punishment to me given he understood his actions and the potential consequences.
So you dont think the player that has the most hits in MLB history and also happen to gamble on the game while he was a player and manager is infamous enough to make it to the Hall of FAME? If anything, Pete Rose and Barry Bonds should be the first two people in right when you walk into the door with all of their accomplishments and all of their dirt. Of course, this is a sport that is against replay so it's not surprise that this way of thinking hasnt progressed.
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:50 am to mkibod1
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This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 2:53 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 7:53 am to msutiger
Also, I love how everyone forgets that this douchebag moved his team (the Brewers to the NL) which is what ultimately messed everything up.
To call this guy the best commissioner in history is an absolute joke.
ETA: How about game 3 of the World Series where he forced the Astros to open the roof even though the Astros didn't want to.
This guy did everything in his power to frick the Astros at any opportunity.
What about taking a game at MMP against the Cubs and moving it to a "neutral location" in IMAGINE THIS, MILWAUKEE. Yeah that's a real neutral site.
To call this guy the best commissioner in history is an absolute joke.
ETA: How about game 3 of the World Series where he forced the Astros to open the roof even though the Astros didn't want to.
This guy did everything in his power to frick the Astros at any opportunity.
What about taking a game at MMP against the Cubs and moving it to a "neutral location" in IMAGINE THIS, MILWAUKEE. Yeah that's a real neutral site.
This post was edited on 7/31/14 at 7:58 am
Posted on 7/31/14 at 8:16 am to LSUGrad9295
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I despise Selig for him blackmailing the Astros into moving into the AL West. frick that dude.
Don't forget that fricked up series after Ike when we had to play in Milwaukee (imagine that). How many stadiums could we have played in that were a hell of a lot closer?
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