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If we had Americans om that plane....
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:14 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:14 am
Does the US have authority to lead in the investigation? If we can, should we? How's that work. Whatever country it landed it has responsibility?
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Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:18 am to roguetiger15
I think because the crash happened in Ukraine, they should lead the investigation. But Russia got a hold of the black box it is there investigation now.
We are going to send assistance but that is about it.
We are going to send assistance but that is about it.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:19 am to roguetiger15
The FAA and NTSB will investigate, but we can't lead an investigation on an a crash that originated from another country on a non-US airline and crashed in a third country. I believe Ukraine should have the lead, but they may turn it over to some independent international body if doing so will more credibly point a finger at Russia.
We do these better than anyone, however, so I imagine any investigation will include significant US input.
ETA: NTSB and FBI en route to Ukraine right now to advise.
We do these better than anyone, however, so I imagine any investigation will include significant US input.
ETA: NTSB and FBI en route to Ukraine right now to advise.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 8:20 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:21 am to roguetiger15
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Does the US have authority to lead in the investigation?
Authority? Id think not... If were going to use nationalities as a basis for authority, why should the US get authority because of 1 American being on board when other countries had many many more?
It should belong to the country in which the aircraft went down, but I don't see why anyone being open and honest would turn down the help of the US.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:21 am to catholictigerfan
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But Russia got a hold of the black box it is there investigation now.
There are actually several black boxes on modern planes. I believe I read this particular one had 8, maybe more. Most have been found, but what I read last night they were still trying to determine who actually had them.
I would imagine Ukraine, Malaysia, and the Netherlands would coordinate the investigation, but no idea who leads.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:23 am to Navytiger74
I can't imagine the black box will have that much importance here. I mean it's not like the pilots put it down on purpose. If Russia leads the investigation there's no way the real truth will ever come out. I am glad we have FBI en route but the question to that is exactly how much leeway will they get to conduct their investigation
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:24 am to The Spleen
I don't know about the 777 but it should have at-least 1 flight recorder and 1 cockpit voice recorder. I think the black box has both.
The pro russian militia is in control of the region and was kinda limiting the Ukraine's from getting close to the scene so this allowed Russians to get a hold of the black box.
The pro russian militia is in control of the region and was kinda limiting the Ukraine's from getting close to the scene so this allowed Russians to get a hold of the black box.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:25 am to roguetiger15
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I can't imagine the black box will have that much importance here
That's what I was wondering. What will the black box tell us other than what we know, the plane was hit by a missile.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:25 am to roguetiger15
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I can't imagine the black box will have that much importance here
Not much, aside from possibly hearing the maydays from the cockpit if all wasn't lost upon impact.
Satellite images and physical evidence will be what proves who did it... Analysts were saying as soon as they get their hands on the casing of the missile, it will be able to be identified and tracked back to whichever govt had it
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:26 am to roguetiger15
No need for black boxes. We all know what happened.
The pieces and parts of the plane help will help to determine what type of missile and to clarify whose missile brought the plane down.
The pieces and parts of the plane help will help to determine what type of missile and to clarify whose missile brought the plane down.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:26 am to roguetiger15
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I can't imagine the black box will have that much importance here. I mean it's not like the pilots put it down on purpose. If Russia leads the investigation there's no way the real truth will ever come out. I am glad we have FBI en route but the question to that is exactly how much leeway will they get to conduct their investigation
The black box will confirm one thing. It was brought down by a catastrophic explosion and structural failure. It can't tell us who fired the missile if it was in fact a missile (even though it will be obvious) if the missile was Russian or Ukrainian etc.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:27 am to roguetiger15
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If Russia leads the investigation there's no way the real truth will ever come out.
No chance Russia leads it. They and their rebels can obstruct the shite out of it, however.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:46 am to Navytiger74
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No chance Russia leads it. They and their rebels can obstruct the shite out of it, however.
well they can't do much about the debris so only if they keep all of the investigators out of that area which will be very difficult and it will make it clear they are trying to cover something up.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:52 am to roguetiger15
I don't see why we should lead the investigation when it wasn't our airliner or air space.
This post was edited on 7/18/14 at 8:54 am
Posted on 7/18/14 at 8:56 am to heartbreakTiger
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Also the FAA banned american liners from that air space so those americans on that flight should have been more aware and chose another airliner.
You serious , Clark?
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:20 am to roguetiger15
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f Russia leads the investigation there's no way the real truth will ever come out
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:32 am to fleaux
is it a good idea to fly in the skies of a country that is on the brink of war? I don't think so. I wouldn't be on a flight that is likely to take a flight path like that. I also wouldn't be on a Maylasian airlines flight after the last disaster.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:39 am to Navytiger74
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but we can't lead an investigation on an a crash that originated from another country on a non-US airline and crashed in a third country
This shouldnt matter. This was an American made Boeing 777 aircraft, so if you ask me, they shot down something of ours. Im sure The Boeing Company cares that one of their planes was shot down.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:45 am to Buckeye Backer
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Im sure The Boeing Company cares that one of their planes was shot down.
About as much as GM cares about one of their cars being totaled.
Posted on 7/18/14 at 9:47 am to Layabout
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About as much as GM cares about one of their cars being totaled
Cant even compare. First, 298 people dont die in a single car accident caused by a surface to air missle, and second, those cars dont cost hundreds of millions of dollars to manufacture. Boeing has to and should care about this!
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