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Why do you feel U of Miami has fallen so far?

Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by BlueIndian420
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:23 pm
I get they were placed on sanctions a couple of years ago, but it wasn't like they were setting the woods on fire before that. Why do you feel they slipped so far?
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
We raped their soul back in 2006. They never recovered from that 41-3 beatdown.
Posted by CBandits82
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:25 pm to
quote:

We raped their soul back in 2006. They never recovered from that 41-3 beatdown.


Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80273 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:26 pm to
I'll answer your question with another question:

What significant change happened to Miami in 2004?

The answer to that question is the answer to your question.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by BlueIndian420
Member since Feb 2010
1876 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:28 pm to
Enlighten me please
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
31805 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:28 pm to
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What significant change happened to Miami in 2005?


Nick Saban killed da U too?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80273 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
You seriously don't know?

From 1991-2003, Miami played in the Big East Conference.

In 2004, Miami was now in a division with Florida State, Boston College (Matt Ryan version), Clemson, N.C. State, and Maryland AND had to play Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech (Calvin Johnson version) and North Carolina in certain years.

MUCH tougher conference schedule than the old Big East.

Edit: they joined the ACC in 2004, not 2005.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:30 pm to
The fences are down.

Other Florida schools like FAU, FIU, and UCF have stepped their game up in recruiting. Withering facilities, ho-hum coaching choices, you name it. They haven't improved their program one iota in over 10 years.

EDIT; They JUST built a new football facility, last year.
This post was edited on 7/14/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47648 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:31 pm to
well that year they moved out of the O.B. and teams started bringing that mess?

nah it's probably that miami area talent is no longer a secret. every D-1 program recruits there now
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4730 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:32 pm to
Nail in the coffin was the demolition of the old orange bowl.

Dolphin's stadium is like an hour away from campus.
Posted by OFWHAP
Member since Sep 2007
5416 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:34 pm to
Because the people of Miami are a fickle bunch (see the Miami Heat). The University of Miami is a private school that was founded for rich, white kids in Florida, with a student body similar to USC, SMU, etc. After OSU beat them in the 2002-2003 BCSNCG, everyone moved on from UM to USC. Now all the top players want to play for Saban, Sumlin, etc.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80273 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:39 pm to
I was wrong, they joined the ACC in 2004, not 2005

Let me put it another way:

Miami's record in the Big East (1991-2003) was 128-29, including 9 conference championships (6 outright) and 2 national championships.

Miami's record since joining the ACC (2004-present) is 75-50 with no championships of any kind (division, conference, or national).

If they get 8 more losses in the next 3 seasons, they will DOUBLE the total number of losses they had in the Big East.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

The University of Miami is a private school that was founded for rich, white kids from the Northeast
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158762 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:39 pm to
increased competition in the area with their poor facilities is the bigger issue. Those past teams were talented enough to play in any conference, especially the ACC.

Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:42 pm to
Well, they just had 2 guys arrested for raping a mentally handicapped person, so I don't think they understand how to recruit character still.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10947 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:42 pm to
The "U" has always been at odds with the University of Miami.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80273 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:43 pm to
It's the increase in competition as well. They never properly adjusted to the increased strength of their competition. They went in expecting to dominate and fell flat.

Here are some other examples:

TCU (Mountain West to Big 12)
Utah (Mountain West to PAC 12)
Colorado (Big 12 to PAC 12)
West Virginia (Big East to Big 12)
Nebraska (Big 12 to Big Ten) initially

If the program is not PREPARED for the upgrade in competition you will see similar results.

Look for Louisville to thrive in the ACC and for Maryland and Rutgers to struggle.
Posted by ULSU
Tasmania
Member since Jan 2014
3931 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:44 pm to
Oh yeah, Donna Shalala HATES athletics and wants to get rid of the whole program. Not good when your Pres has thise opinions. She made public comments a year or so ago about wanting to lower the importance of athletics at Tha U.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80273 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:46 pm to
That's because Donna Shalala is continuing her track record of "excellence" that started when she worked for the Clinton White House.
Posted by MasterBetty
Monroe, LA
Member since Apr 2012
894 posts
Posted on 7/14/14 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Oh yeah, Donna Shalala HATES athletics and wants to get rid of the whole program.


You say it with such confidence, I almost believe you. But this is nowhere close to the truth.
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