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re: OFFICIAL Liverpool FC 2014-2015 Season Long Thread
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:51 am to StraightCashHomey21
I think its the trashy rag whose logo is on the photo???
Btw - can you let me know where I stand on your pathetic table? Above or below man city attendance and ESPN HD quality?
Sorry that I could care less about Europa. I don't think your opinion on it matters since its been, what, 20 years since your team started the year in the competition?
I don't care about a second tier tournament to watch next year, I want Liverpool to be among the elite again. And that will take mutiple CL appearances in a few year period so that we have the financial and scouting/recruiting clout needed to be there.
Europa is fine, but I see it as creating a harder road to where we need to be. Again - it's not often that the teams in Europa qualify for top four the next year in the epl. That Thursday Sunday turnaround is tough. Call it the Tottenham effect.
Btw - can you let me know where I stand on your pathetic table? Above or below man city attendance and ESPN HD quality?
Sorry that I could care less about Europa. I don't think your opinion on it matters since its been, what, 20 years since your team started the year in the competition?
I don't care about a second tier tournament to watch next year, I want Liverpool to be among the elite again. And that will take mutiple CL appearances in a few year period so that we have the financial and scouting/recruiting clout needed to be there.
Europa is fine, but I see it as creating a harder road to where we need to be. Again - it's not often that the teams in Europa qualify for top four the next year in the epl. That Thursday Sunday turnaround is tough. Call it the Tottenham effect.
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:06 am to Tigerstark
You should probably chill the frick out
Playing in Europa means extra revenue and the clubs needs that. Wining the cup means you are in the champions league.
The more games you play the more money you make which helps you become elite.
Playing in Europa means extra revenue and the clubs needs that. Wining the cup means you are in the champions league.
The more games you play the more money you make which helps you become elite.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 8:13 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:17 am to StraightCashHomey21
I'm pretty chill. Takes a better troll than you to get under my skin. Did I call you any names or say anything heated? Are you so used to people angry at your trolls that you aren't able to see legitimate points? You called it pathetic, I think it's for our greater good. So I elaborated more. I thought it would be funny to link it to the items your harp on constantly too.
I also think telling your rivals that they should be happy with a second class tournament is either bizarre or condescending. Kind of like us telling you moyes was going a great job and that it was a rebuilding year.
I also think telling your rivals that they should be happy with a second class tournament is either bizarre or condescending. Kind of like us telling you moyes was going a great job and that it was a rebuilding year.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:20 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Playing in Europa means extra revenue and the clubs needs that. Wining the cup means you are in the champions league.
The more games you play the more money you make which helps you become elite
That's really helped Tottenham, hasn't it?
Win Europa? Lol - have you seen Rodgers record in European competitions?
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:22 am to Tigerstark
Well you asked about my "table" what ever the frick that is
If you don't see the benefits of playing in Europe regardless the tournament from a financial and experience stand point then I don't know what to tell you. Young players need games at a high level especially in Europe and in hostile environments. They can then take that back and help with the league. Liverpool is a very young team the more matches the better.
Bleed already hit on the financial befits from the TV deal.
If you don't see the benefits of playing in Europe regardless the tournament from a financial and experience stand point then I don't know what to tell you. Young players need games at a high level especially in Europe and in hostile environments. They can then take that back and help with the league. Liverpool is a very young team the more matches the better.
Bleed already hit on the financial befits from the TV deal.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:25 am to Tigerstark
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That's really helped Tottenham, hasn't it?
The 5 times European champs should never be compared to Spurs.
They were a mid table side historical now just finding success. Liverpool is arguably the most successful team in England.
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Win Europa? Lol - have you seen Rodgers record in European competitions?
Yes it's poor but how else do you think he's going to get better in Europe
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:41 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Well you asked about my "table" what ever the frick that is
You think so many things are pathetic I figured you had a ranking of them?
The money is better than it has been , but still not remotely close. Bleed said 70% but I read that the proportion is 3.3 to 1 instead of 4.3 to 1. So 10-13 million pounds instead of of the CL's 30-40 for the base level?
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:47 am to Tigerstark
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The money is better than it has been , but still not remotely close. Bleed said 70% but I read that the proportion is 3.3 to 1 instead of 4.3 to 1. So 10-13 million pounds instead of of the CL's 30-40 for the base level?
And with Liverpool's financial situation just finally now breaking even for a year the club needs every pound it can get. Which means more matches regardless of competition.
Then you have ticket sales 45k at at least 45£ a pop for another 6 games and potentially more can only help.
Liverpool doesn't have the financial backing like Man City where missing Europe or getting knocked out wont mean much bc they have oil money and a bullshite 40 million a year shirt sponsor deal that's about to be 80 million a year.
Even the loss of games hurt United financially this last year. With FFP every pound counts bc you can only spend what you bring in.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 9:24 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:22 am to StraightCashHomey21
With the new stadium expansion, I'll take Europa all day.
shite it's another chance to get into the freaking top 4. If we hadn't sucked so much arse already we could have used it this year.
shite it's another chance to get into the freaking top 4. If we hadn't sucked so much arse already we could have used it this year.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:56 am to STLhog
They are both kinda old news... The balloons surfaced right after the match on Monday. It's not great PR on his part (or in general given he's a professional athlete) given his current standing with the club/supporters, but it's been dealt with internally and it's over for me...
Again, I just hate the fact that I had to see the sun logo first thing today, on the anniversary, in a LFC thread...
Again, I just hate the fact that I had to see the sun logo first thing today, on the anniversary, in a LFC thread...
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:06 am to StraightCashHomey21
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You should probably chill the frick out
SCH you are usually a decent addition to conversations here even though you naturally troll being a United fan. I think I speak for every LFC supporter on this board in saying that you fricking posted a Sun picture on April 15!!!! I really don't give a shite when anything came out or whether you forgot. When this was brought up your only response should have been "Jesus, I'm an idiot I meant no disrespect". I mean you post here all the time, the above quote is nowhere near indicative as to our emotions are pertaining to ANYTHING that POS paper has to say about any subject......especially today.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:19 am to JackVincennes
Sorry my grammar was a bit off and I really do enjoy SCH, but that issue is not to be fricked with in my book.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:09 pm to JackVincennes
Clearly I am the only one who feels that way about Europa. There are benefits to it - but I think we are close enough to go straight back to the top four next year should we not have extra games or distractions. Like we did last year and Man U this year.
If we go, I'll still watch and cheer as always.
If we go, I'll still watch and cheer as always.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:41 pm to Tigerstark
Watch the Porto match today to get a glimpse of future LFC striker Jackson Martinez 
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:50 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
I actually kinda like Europa, but I can obviously see the concerns with it...
If we want to play and compete in the UCL, we have to get used to playing these amount of games... Though not having it last season, I'm guessing, helped us qualify for it this season...
Let the chips fall and deal accordingly...
If we want to play and compete in the UCL, we have to get used to playing these amount of games... Though not having it last season, I'm guessing, helped us qualify for it this season...
Let the chips fall and deal accordingly...
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:52 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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get Ings
I sure hope so
I'll start this off by first saying that I'm not a Liverpool fan, so it really doesn't bother me too much which players Liverpool does or doesn't sign in a given transfer window.
But if I was a Liverpool fan, it would be very concerning to me if the club's top striker target/signing this summer were to be (somebody like) Danny Ings. That's not to say that Ings is a bad player, quite the contrary. I think he's a pretty good player, but is he really the level of player Liverpool need to target to get back into the elite of of English and European football?
When I look from the outside at Liverpool's most recent transfer dealings, I think this is a club that is teetering on the edge of slipping further and further behind the current Top 4 sides in England. It is a club with the support and history that should be going after more established players from more established clubs who can slot in and immediately make their first 11 better and make Liverpool more competitive overall.
How many of the signings from the 2014 summer window are established first 11 players in Liverpool's squad? Emre Can? Is that it? What was the point of spending all the Suarez money on so many players who can't nail down a first-team spot week in and week out?
When you fill your squad with players of a certain level who have spent their recent seasons playing in the Championship division (Ings) or playing year in and year out with a mid-table side like Southampton (Lallana, Lovren, Lambert), you run the risk of resembling such a mid-table side more and more and slipping further behind the Top 4. And once that happens, there is nothing stopping other top clubs around Europe that can offer more on the playing front and also financially from poaching the unquestioned top-level talent you do have at the moment (Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, etc.).
But what do I really know? It's not my club. Just simple cause and effect.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 4/15/15 at 12:59 pm to JackVincennes
Y'all need to chill out about the Sun thing. You think he did it on purpose? It was an honest mistake. He's come to the defense of us in regard to H'borough when the shite heads on this board say we need to get over it.
Y'all are all riled up and ready to fight. It's going to be ok.
Y'all are all riled up and ready to fight. It's going to be ok.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:03 pm to FirstRoundPick
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When you fill your squad with players of a certain level who have spent their recent seasons playing in the Championship division (Ings) or playing year in and year out with a mid-table side like Southampton (Lallana, Lovren, Lambert), you run the risk of resembling such a mid-table side more and more and slipping further behind the Top 4.
Damn, that thought has never crossed my mind. Ever
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:05 pm to FirstRoundPick
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it would be very concerning to me if the club's top striker target/signing this summer were to be (somebody like) Danny Ings. That's not to say that Ings is a bad player, quite the contrary. I think he's a pretty good player, but is he really the level of player Liverpool need to target to get back into the elite of of English and European football?
He's not the level we need. But be realistic. Who are we realistically going to get that plays at that level? Despite all the hype about Lacazette, he's not going to come. He refused to come last time we were in for him because we didn't have CL. Why would he now?
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It is a club with the support and history that should be going after more established players from more established clubs who can slot in and immediately make their first 11 better and make Liverpool more competitive overall.
Support and history mean nothing in the modern game. No one gives a damn that we won our 18th league title 25 years ago. They're concerned with money and chances at silverware.
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How many of the signings from the 2014 summer window are established first 11 players in Liverpool's squad? Emre Can? Is that it? What was the point of spending all the Suarez money on so many players who can't nail down a first-team spot week in and week out?
Moreno and Can are pretty much it. But our abysmal transfer window has been beat to death in this thread. That's on Brendan and the transfer committee. We missed our chance with CL football to pull in the likes of Sanchez, but that's because he wanted London. These things happen. The bigger question is how did we not have a legitimate backup.
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When you fill your squad with players of a certain level who have spent their recent seasons playing in the Championship division (Ings) or playing year in and year out with a mid-table side like Southampton (Lallana, Lovren, Lambert), you run the risk of resembling such a mid-table side more and more and slipping further behind the Top 4. And once that happens, there is nothing stopping other top clubs around Europe that can offer more on the playing front and also financially from poaching the unquestioned top-level talent you do have at the moment (Coutinho, Sterling, Sturridge, etc.).
Again, beaten to death in this thread. We missed our year to sign top talent because of our inept transfer strategy. However, Cou and Studge aren't going anywhere. They just signed new contracts. And Sterling will likely sign soon because there is no one on Earth that is going to give him the wages he wants outside of City or Chelsea. And if he goes to either, the money will be worth it.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 1:06 pm to tsmi136
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Damn, that thought has never crossed my mind. Ever
Its like we've never had a conversation about how terrible our window was.
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