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Greenwald - Meet the Muslim-American Leaders the FBI and NSA Have Been Spying On

Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:24 am
Posted by Truckasaurus
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:24 am
LINK

Surprised noone was discussing this yet.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:29 am to
Very few fricks will be given. Watch what I tell you.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 7:31 am
Posted by Truckasaurus
Alabama
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:31 am to
Well, it seemed like a couple weeks ago people were all up in arms when the Greenwald story was delayed.

Thought conservatives might be interested in civil liberties.
Posted by baybeefeetz
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:34 am to
Yeah, but these guys' names are Not Chad Smith or Brett Green. When they are , it will be huge.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:38 am to
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This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 7:44 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:41 am to
Appears you guys are fishing without bait - but keep on chunking.
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Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:44 am to
If they want to put the NSA to good use in defending American's freedom...let em' go and pull up the Lerner emails to Jarret/Obama and open the TRUTH for the public to see.

BTW, profiling Muslims for potential links to radical Muslim terrorist is their job. As long as they are not corrupted like the IRS...whatever.

Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:48 am to
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Faisal Gill, a longtime Republican Party operative and one-time candidate for public office who held a top-secret security clearance and served in the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush;

• Asim Ghafoor, a prominent attorney who has represented clients in terrorism-related cases;

• Hooshang Amirahmadi, an Iranian-American professor of international relations at Rutgers University;

• Agha Saeed, a former political science professor at California State University who champions Muslim civil liberties and Palestinian rights;

• Nihad Awad, the executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), the largest Muslim civil rights organization in the country.


Posted by KeyserSoze999
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:52 am to
what are the five alters on the poli board?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32654 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:58 am to
inb4 Decatur says there's an audit trail and while some information may slip through, it certainly is not being used.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:16 am to
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LINK


Excellent article. Thanks.

Personally, I am concerned about the entire FISA oversight process. Probably the best comment in the article;

quote:

Indeed, the government’s ability to monitor such high-profile Muslim-Americans—with or without warrants—suggests that the most alarming and invasive aspects of the NSA’s surveillance occur not because the agency breaks the law, but because it is able to exploit the law’s permissive contours. “The scandal is what Congress has made legal,” says Jameel Jaffer, an ACLU deputy legal director. “The claim that the intelligence agencies are complying with the laws is just a distraction from more urgent questions relating to the breadth of the laws themselves.”


This is a tool in the hands of any President. And it has to have the appropriate oversight. Without the warrant or the finding of the FISA court, we have no way of knowing why they were monitored, or if they should have been.
Posted by Truckasaurus
Alabama
Member since May 2014
336 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:16 am to
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BTW, profiling Muslims for potential links to radical Muslim terrorist is their job. As long as they are not corrupted like the IRS...whatever.


Not sure if joking...

Last I checked, freedom of religion is still afforded to us as American Citizens.

Read the article. In one instance, the NSA used a fake name on a form - "MOHAMMED RAGHEAD." Anyone using that slur should not be deciding shite regarding surveillance under FISA.
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80161 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Greenwald Reports: 5 Americans Targeted by NSA


They're Muslim, nobody will care




fricking sad sad sad what America has become and the people that will defend this blatant overreach by our government.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:24 am to
5 people with Muslim names does not traction get.

Just look at the blatant abuses that government agencies under Obama have gotten away with.

This isn't a smoking gun, it's a steaming sling shot.

Greenwald needs to step up his game, IMO. This isn't even worth swatting away for this administration.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:28 am to
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Thought conservatives might be interested in civil liberties.


Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:28 am to
quote:

fricking sad sad sad what America has become and the people that will defend this blatant overreach by our government.


So, are you concerned about the IRS as well?

Because I am concerned about both.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31638 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:38 am to
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Greenwald needs to step up his game, IMO.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:47 am to
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Faisal Gill, a longtime Republican Party operative and one-time candidate for public office who held a top-secret security clearance and served in the Department of Homeland Security under President George W. Bush;
I would expect that anyone who receives top-secret security clearances would have to sign off on NSA surveillance, Patriot Act or not. The other 4 are questionable.
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 8:48 am
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32654 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:48 am to
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I would expect that anyone who receives top-secret security clearances would have to sign off on NSA surveillance, Patriot Act or no


You would expect wrong
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 8:52 am
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:51 am to
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I would expect that anyone who receives top-secret security clearances would have to sign off on NSA surveillance, Patriot Act or not.


I have a TS-SCI. It is not signed off on (per se), but you do realize that you are subject to being monitored.

quote:

The other 4 are questionable.


I would say this is an understatement. If the rationale for monitoring them was sound and unimpeachable, then it should stand the scrutiny of an independent review. Produce the evidence that their activities required additional scrutiny.

FISA and the NSA monitoring system are ripe for abuse.
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