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If you want a good look at our broken health care system

Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:21 pm
visit the website "gofundme". 80-90% of the initiatives there are for medical bills. Obviously Obamacare is a net negative, but it's still sad how we get all theoretical and ideological when talking about it, as if the entire crisis is abstract, while in reality people are really hurting.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67116 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:23 pm to
but the entire crisis is abstract. Any problem can be solved with the right combination of talking points. Liberty! Equality! Forward!
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:26 pm to
It is sad. A country this advanced and wealthy, with this much quality medical care, should not have anyone being financially ruined over a health issue.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:27 pm to
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but the entire crisis is abstract.
Both sides make it abstract. Liberals use it to bash the profit motive, conservatives use it to bash personal decision making, etc.

Problems are solved by actually helping the people with problems, not by winning philosophical arguments.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35412 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:45 pm to
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visit the website "gofundme". 80-90% of the initiatives there are for medical bills.
Is getting a breast implant considered a medical need?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50549 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Problems are solved by actually helping the people with problems, not by winning philosophical arguments.


I don't have the money to help them. Do you?
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69313 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:46 pm to
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Is getting a breast implant considered a medical need?
Breast reduction is most definitely a medical need.
Posted by eng08
Member since Jan 2013
5997 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:48 pm to
Implant not reduction.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:48 pm to
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It is sad. A country this advanced and wealthy, with this much quality medical care, should not have anyone being financially ruined over a health issue


A lot of it is personal responsibility. People do not prioritize health insurance in this country and fail to get insurance to cover them adequately.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:52 pm to
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Obviously Obamacare is a net negative, but it's still sad how we get all theoretical and ideological when talking about it, as if the entire crisis is abstract, while in reality people are really hurting.


You don't write health insurance policy because "people are hurting." No amount of money will ever change that reality.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:52 pm to
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People do not prioritize health insurance in this country and fail to get insurance to cover them adequately.


Nor do they save money to cover expenses in case of an emergency.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:53 pm to
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A lot of it is personal responsibility. People do not prioritize health insurance in this country and fail to get insurance to cover them adequately.


Some of it, yes, but when the majority of people are getting health insurance through their employer, they're often at the employer's mercy for the plan they have.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28823 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:55 pm to
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A lot of it is personal responsibility. People do not prioritize health insurance in this country and fail to get insurance to cover them adequately.

I have to agree. Many of these problems wouldn't exist if they had bought life insurance, disability insurance, or supplemental plans to help fill the gaps in their medical insurance.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10837 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Implant not reduction.

Was this a trick question?
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10837 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:59 pm to
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Nor do they save money to cover expenses in case of an emergency.


Well we should force them to do that too.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28823 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:05 pm to
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Some of it, yes, but when the majority of people are getting health insurance through their employer, they're often at the employer's mercy for the plan they have.

Many employees do not take advantage of the benefits their employer offers.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:09 pm to
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Is getting a breast implant considered a medical need?


Depends. Need before and projected after pics.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:10 pm to
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visit the website "gofundme". 80-90% of the initiatives there are for medical bills

that's what happens when state governors refuse to expand medicaid.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89552 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:14 pm to
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No amount of money will ever change that reality.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36128 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:16 pm to
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visit the website "gofundme"


Seriously bro.

LINK /
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The Coverage Gap: Uninsured Poor Adults in States that Do Not Expand Medicaid


This is why there are so many uninsured adults in Louisiana still - Bobby Jindal refused to expand Medicaid (and they will STILL vote Republican, can you fricking believe it)?
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