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Random thought - Shoot outs for MLS
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:12 pm
I'm a fairly regular poster on the soccer board here, don't flame I'm all whacked out on antibiotics and nyquil (stomach bug).
Here goes.
Americans hate ties. (whatever)
If every game ended in a shootout to avoid a tie would that not give us a huge advantage when it comes to shoot outs in big stage tournaments?
They are rare to see on the premier stage due to the point system, so no teams are THAT experienced with each other for the whole production of the shoot out.
And maybe not every game.
I feel that if the MLS were to implement a system to allow more shoot outs we'd be more prepared in the various cups that the USMNT might find themselves in. I understand that penalties are practiced all the time, but the actual situation of being in a shoot out seems much different and already being there time and again would be advantageous, not to mention attract the crowd more.
I understand the entire point system might have to change a bit and could make the whole idea stupid, I'm just throwing it out there.
Here goes.
Americans hate ties. (whatever)
If every game ended in a shootout to avoid a tie would that not give us a huge advantage when it comes to shoot outs in big stage tournaments?
They are rare to see on the premier stage due to the point system, so no teams are THAT experienced with each other for the whole production of the shoot out.
And maybe not every game.
I feel that if the MLS were to implement a system to allow more shoot outs we'd be more prepared in the various cups that the USMNT might find themselves in. I understand that penalties are practiced all the time, but the actual situation of being in a shoot out seems much different and already being there time and again would be advantageous, not to mention attract the crowd more.
I understand the entire point system might have to change a bit and could make the whole idea stupid, I'm just throwing it out there.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 8:13 pm
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:20 pm to olddawg26
Shootouts should be the last resort when 2 teams tie and 1 MUST move on... It just isn't fair over the course of the season to end games in a shootout. The 1 point is fair for 2 teams tying in the regular season.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:24 pm to olddawg26
This used to be a thing in MLS, along with countdown clocks.
Soccer fans didn't like it.
Having shootouts or other attempts at "Americanizing" the rules won't win over enough fans for MLS to play with non-FIFA regulations.
Soccer fans didn't like it.
Having shootouts or other attempts at "Americanizing" the rules won't win over enough fans for MLS to play with non-FIFA regulations.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:24 pm to StickyFingaz
i agree. i just see shoot outs as such a mental game. My suggestion was to put us in that more often for an advantage
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:31 pm to olddawg26
They weren't penalty shootouts either. At first they had hockey style penalty shot shootouts. It was fun to watch, but the purists hated it.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:34 pm to olddawg26
I get that, but then the best teams could potentially give up playoff seeding for another team that is better at PKs. Shootouts are a necessary evil in tournaments bc of the tight time restrictions, but to give a team 2 more points for winning a shootout is not a true reflection if the outcome IMO.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:01 pm to TheWalrus
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At first they had hockey style penalty shot shootouts
I actually like this idea because I think a game, regardless of sport, should be decided by being played as closely to the regular rules as possible.
Make the shooter dribble at least. Even if he dribbles straight at the GK and takes the typical penalty shot.
This post was edited on 7/7/14 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:03 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
quote:Agreed.
I actually like this idea because I think a game, regardless of sport, should be decided by being played as closely to the regular rules as possible.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:13 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:22 pm to CherryGarciaMan
Wtf did I just watch?
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:26 pm to McVick
MLS was desperate during their initial formation.
Desperation, as any barfly can tell you, does not often lead to positive results.
Desperation, as any barfly can tell you, does not often lead to positive results.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:48 pm to McVick
Goalie in the baseball cap made me 
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:04 pm to BayouBandit24
This the first time I realized that a good amount of people on this board have never seen a shootout like this. They were terrible in the MLS but they are much more fun to participate in than a normal shootout.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:12 pm to olddawg26
I don't have any issues with ties. But just to humor the op, maybe do shootouts and the winner gets 2 points and the loser gets 1.
I would rather keep things the way they are.
I would rather keep things the way they are.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:53 pm to noonan
My point wasn't that I don't like ties. I'm an EPL fan and I understand that both teams deserve a point if theres no clear winner after 90 minutes.
I was just pointing out that a bunch of games in the WC have ended with a shoot out and one of the teas choking and its virtually impossible to practice that other than when your countries fate is on the line. But if that sort of mental pressure was a bit more often for the US players, maybe it would help. USA/Belgium almost came down to penalties.
I was just pointing out that a bunch of games in the WC have ended with a shoot out and one of the teas choking and its virtually impossible to practice that other than when your countries fate is on the line. But if that sort of mental pressure was a bit more often for the US players, maybe it would help. USA/Belgium almost came down to penalties.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:14 am to olddawg26
its been done and it sucked
the players and fans hated it
the players and fans hated it
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:09 am to olddawg26
quote:
If every game ended in a shootout to avoid a tie would that not give us a huge advantage when it comes to shoot outs in big stage tournaments?
Taking a PK in a shootout in front of 20,000 people does not equal taking one in front of 56,000 with millions watching around the world. Not saying it wouldn't help the physical aspect of it but it's almost impossible to mentally prepare for taking a PK at the World Cup. As we know PKs are far more of a mental game than physical.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:16 am to Boomtown
1. playing for 1 point in the standings does not equal playing for your tournament lives or even the trophy itself and having to wait 4 more years for another shot if you lose
2. i'd hope our goalkeeper and penalty takers are long out of MLS or had never even been there
2. i'd hope our goalkeeper and penalty takers are long out of MLS or had never even been there
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:26 am to CherryGarciaMan
quote:
Do y'all not remember this atrocity?
Clash! Clash! Clash!
Posted on 7/8/14 at 10:55 am to CherryGarciaMan
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Do y'all not remember this atrocity?
That was so retarded.
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