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3 things preventing soccer from gaining mainstream U.S. popularity
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:51 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:51 am
Obviously major events like the World Cup will generate a large audience, but soccer in the U.S. isn't even close to overtaking MLB, NHL, NBA, NFL, or even NCAA Basketball and Football.
1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
2. Title IX. Unless football is exempted from Title IX restrictions, you won't see many men's soccer programs at the NCAA level. That's why WOMEN'S soccer has grown so much nationally.
3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
2. Title IX. Unless football is exempted from Title IX restrictions, you won't see many men's soccer programs at the NCAA level. That's why WOMEN'S soccer has grown so much nationally.
3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:52 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Lobotomy
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:52 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The soccer hipsters will love this thread.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:53 am to PsychTiger
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The soccer hipsters will love this thread.
Says the guy who is posting in it.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:54 am to MetArl15
Show me evidence that Professional Soccer will EVER outdraw the big 4 in the U.S. I'm not talking about a once every 4-year event. Also tell me that the ratings in the U.S. are even close to as high when the U.S. isn't playing.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:54 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Unless football is exempted from Title IX restrictions, you won't see many men's soccer programs at the NCAA level.
Good.
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1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:55 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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TV audience
I agree with this one but for completely different reasons. I think it has nothing to do with what you said but rather that there are no great soccer games in primetime
yea and
@ timekeeping.. why would that prevent mainstream popularity? The Title IX argument is wierd and i don't know if it keeps soccer from being mainstream. MLB was more mainstream before the rise of college baseball.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 9:58 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:56 am to petar
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I think it has nothing to do with what you said but rather that there are no great soccer games in primetime
and why would that be? Could it be that...networks don't want to broadcast commercial free?
I'm not talking about ESPN, Fox Sports, etc. I'm talking about the big four (FOX, NBC, ABC, CBS)
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:56 am to Broski
I played soccer and enjoy watching it, but I don't get all up in arms like the regular posters here when the new viewers suggest changes. Y'all are so sensitive you're inviting trolls to come on here and frick with you. Reminds me of the GoT readers thread a little.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:56 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Another top notch thread started by an Aggie
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:57 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Hopefully this post is pseudo serious and not a troll attempt because here is my serious response.
Sure.. Maybe. But I would think that NBC and ESPN's new commitment to showing the sport says otherwise.
Do you watch women's collegiate soccer? How about any other collegiate sports other than football/basketball/baseball? Collegiate soccer or the lack of it has nothing to do with the popularity of the sport. You could argue that it hinders the progression of our athletes currently due to them taking longer to become a professional.
This has never really bothered me but I could see how it may bother some people. Now the people that I know it bothers will never like the sport, so maybe there is nothing to this argument either.
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1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
Sure.. Maybe. But I would think that NBC and ESPN's new commitment to showing the sport says otherwise.
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. Title IX. Unless football is exempted from Title IX restrictions, you won't see many men's soccer programs at the NCAA level. That's why WOMEN'S soccer has grown so much nationally.
Do you watch women's collegiate soccer? How about any other collegiate sports other than football/basketball/baseball? Collegiate soccer or the lack of it has nothing to do with the popularity of the sport. You could argue that it hinders the progression of our athletes currently due to them taking longer to become a professional.
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
This has never really bothered me but I could see how it may bother some people. Now the people that I know it bothers will never like the sport, so maybe there is nothing to this argument either.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:57 am to PsychTiger
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I played soccer and enjoy watching it, but I don't get all up in arms like the regular posters here when the new viewers suggest changes. Y'all are so sensitive you're inviting trolls to come on here and frick with you. Reminds me of the GoT readers thread a little.
It is like that, even the no Spoilers part
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:58 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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and why would that be? Could it be that...networks don't want to broadcast commercial free?
It's because the best games take place in Europe. They have to show the games either in the morning or early afternoon in the states.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 9:58 am to Fratastic423
Forgot reason number 4.
Our best athletes go where they can make the most money. Right now, that isn't soccer and may never be.
Our best athletes go where they can make the most money. Right now, that isn't soccer and may never be.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes.
THIS is what's keeping soccer from growing?
A minute or so of "official time" either way?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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3. Timekeeping. Right now, the ref is in charge of the clock. The indicator on screen is an approximation but not the official time. If you had an independent timekeeper who stopped the clock every time there was a stoppage in play, the halves would end at EXACTLY 45 and 90 minutes
you honestly think that this is something keeping soccer from gaining mainstream popularity? honestly? that a half my last 45 minutes and 55 seconds as opposed to exactly 45 minutes? really, you think that is something that keeps people from watching or playing the sport?
come on.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:00 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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and why would that be? Could it be that...networks don't want to broadcast commercial free?
nice, cute build up. But no that has nothing to do with it. There are no games in that time slot here. The european games occur too early and South America/mls doesn't have the quality games
No one has a problem in broadcasting soccer games. European equivalents to the big four broadcast soccer. As does Fox for champions league and nbc for big EPL soccer games. And i imagine that knockout games over the weekend will be on ABC
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:01 am to petar
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And i imagine that knockout games over the weekend will be on ABC
During the summer. Try that during sweeps week.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:01 am to CGSC Lobotomy
The big money in soccer is in Europe, and there's plenty of money to go around.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 10:02 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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Our best athletes go where they can make the most money. Right now, that isn't soccer and may never be.
Ronaldo makes as much as any American athlete. The money is there but it is overseas.
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