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Offshore guys, I need a rod reccomendation

Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:03 am
I snatched up a Sustain 10000 for cheap. I don't really get offshore much, but I thought it would be a nice general purpose offshore reel to have for when I do make it out. I'm thinking something that I can cast for Tuna and Lemonfish and maybe even use for jigging.

Any rec's on a good all around spinning rod?
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:09 am to
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I snatched up a Sustain 10000 for cheap


Recently? Or was this part of the Academy bonanza a couple months ago?
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:14 am to
It was someone who picked them up from the Academy Bonanza and flipped them. I paid half price.
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:14 am to
in general I jig with very short rods and cast w/ very long rods. I have the OTI jigging rods and they are beasts.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:16 am to
Get this rod: Shimano Trevala Butterfly Jigging Rod in the 6'6" 50-100# model.

You'll be good to go.

Penn makes a similar rod: PENN Bluewater Carnage Jigging Rod. Once again get the 6'4" in the 65-100# class.

BPS makes their own version as well: Offshore Angler Freestyle Jigging Rod. Go for the 6'6" 30-65# model.
Posted by CBDTigerFan
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:16 am to
Shimano trevala I use it for everything from jigging for snapper to top water for tuna
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3951 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:23 am to
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Shimano trevala


It is an awesome rod but just really damn expensive.

You can get a fairly comparable Ugly Stick that will do the job just fine for a lot less.
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:24 am to
Appreciate the info fellas. I'll probably pick up a Trevala on the way home from work. What size line would y'all recommend?
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:27 am to
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Ugly Stick


I know some people are fans of Ugly Stick. And I have no idea how their offshore rods preform, but i'll probably never buy one. I hate their bass rods so damn much, I cant see myself spending money on any other type to try one out.

Like trying to set the hook with a cane pole.
Posted by CBDTigerFan
Member since Mar 2009
2214 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:30 am to
I'm not a fan of the ugly stiks

You can get a trevala for like $50 more and it has a lifetime warranty

Load that bitch with 65-80# jerry brown
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3951 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:36 am to
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I hate their bass rods so damn much, I cant see myself spending money on any other type to try one out.


Gotcha, I've never used them for small tackle...we have a trevala and a couple of ugly sticks.

I prefer the trevala for just about every application (except casting) but I wouldn't want to buy 3 or 4 of them.

As far as lb test line, if I remember off of the top of my head, we have two set up with 60 lb braid, one with 80 lb braid, and one with 150 lb braid.

I would absolutely put braided line on there since it doesn't stretch like mono. The braid will give more action to your jigging and it's easier for newcomers to learn the palomar knot than other knots.

Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:43 am to
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Load that bitch with 65-80# jerry brown


80# hollow core JB FTW. Although it'll cost you more than the rod... I would recommend 65# Suffix 832 braid. It's an 8 strand braid that is very smoothe. I would stay away from regular power pro. 4-strand braids have very low abrasion resistance and I have experienced breakage with power pro pretty frequently that I am certain was not a result of poor knot tying.
Posted by DownSouthDave
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Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:45 am to
What's the difference between hollow core and solid braid? I saw JB makes both.
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:47 am to
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hollow core and solid braid

Hollow core allows for spliced in line to line connections - no knots! this is far and away the best main line to leader connection. Otherwise, you'll be trusting your knots under extreme stress.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7377 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:49 am to
I've never done any splices. How hard is it to learn?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:50 am to
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Appreciate the info fellas. I'll probably pick up a Trevala on the way home from work. What size line would y'all recommend?

i went with more of a casting rod than the trevala. i went with the tallus blue water 50-100. I have a 14000 Spheros on it.

the blue water to me is better at casting but can still jig and bottom fish. the trevala is more centered about jigging. I wanted more castability.
Posted by CBDTigerFan
Member since Mar 2009
2214 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:50 am to
If you know how to properly tie a uni to uni there's no need to spend extra on hollow core

I've seen 150+# tuna landed on a uni to uni connection
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57457 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:53 am to
albright > uni to uni. IMO.

im an idiot.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:05 am
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6841 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:54 am to
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If you know how to properly tie a uni to uni there's no need to spend extra on hollow core


Agreed. But I've also seen plenty of fish lost due to poor knots. Splicing is the more secure option, no doubt about it. I usually uni-uni as I don't run hollow core on my reels and the Alberto knot never sits correctly when I tie it so I don't trust it.

To the OP: Splicing isn't difficult, but neither is learning how to tie a really good uni-uni. Think about it this way: If you're using 80# braid and 80# fluoro leader material, even if your knot strength is only 75%, that means your knot is 60#. You will never even approach putting that much weight on a knot since your max drag is likely under 20#.
Posted by stewie
Member since Jan 2006
3951 posts
Posted on 6/30/14 at 9:55 am to
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If you know how to properly tie a uni to uni there's no need to spend extra on hollow core I've seen 150+# tuna landed on a uni to uni connection


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