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For all of those wondering, THIS is why we hate Mexico

Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:07 pm
I went to the Gold Cup final at the Rose Bowl in 2011. It was US vs Mexico. Before this experience, I didn't really "get" the hatred so many US fans had towards El Tri and their fans. This is an account from another US fan who was at that game:

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My name is Russell J., I am the president and founder of the American Outlaws Davis chapter. Myself and 7 other American Outlaws Davis members made the drive from Davis to Pasadena for the Gold Cup Final this past Saturday.

Upon arriving to the stadium roads were blocked to get to lot H, the lot where the American Outlaws tailgate was being held, so we were told to drive all the way around the other side. We then had to ask 3 different staff members how to get to lot H and about half way through the drive around the stadium we were told by police to turn back because lot H was closed. This whole ordeal took about 20 minutes and could have easily been avoided if once lot H was full, it was told to the people at the entrance gate.

Finally after parking we walked to the tailgate to the loud chants of "CULERO" (loosely translating to "arse hole" or "jack arse") from the Mexico fans, many of them running up to us and putting their flags and noise makers within inches of our face. We walked around half of the parking lot to find the tailgate and only saw one pair of police officers walking around. Once we found the tailgate and finally settled in, we noticed that we were completely out numbered and surrounded. Mexico fans kept running through our tailgate, or coming up to members with the noise makers and starting shouting and pushing matches. About 30 minutes in, as we were all standing around talking, I looked up to see a glass bottle of beer flying straight for my friends head. Another American Outlaws member reached out his hand and deflected it and the bottle struck my friend in the back. I say this is lucky only because the bottle did not strike him in the head, if it had Im sure he would have had to go to the hospital.

Things calmed down for the next half hour, we decided to walk around and noticed that there were nice Mexico fans who wanted to take pictures with us and wish us luck in the game. Upon arriving back to the tailgate we noticed that about 8 police officers had moved into the area, even though they should have been there in the first place. There were more bottles, cans and other objects thrown into our tailgate, and more clashes of pushing and shouting matches. I was informed by an American Outlaws Seattle member via twitter yesterday that in one of these clashes a member was hit in the face with a Jack Daniels bottle by a Mexico fan. Where was the security?

When we marched to the stadium a few hours later we arrived at an open gate and were told that we couldn't enter through that gate, we were not given a reason. There were about 200-300 USA fans pinned in a corner, we moved to the next gate over, I was leading the pack and asked the woman in charge of security of that gate if we could get it. I was informed that it was a handicapped entrance only and we would have to get in line. I told the woman that for security reasons it wouldn't be wise to cram us in line with the Mexico fans. She told me that if she let us in she would be fired, and if we get attacked we should just "sue the police". I don't want to say who should, or shouldn't be hired to work at these events, but I can say that it was very obvious this woman had no interest in keeping us safe and was merely there to collect a paycheck.

I ushered the USA fans into line where I witnessed about 5 fights while waiting to get to the entrance gate, I saw USA fans, including women and children, pushed, verbally harassed, and spit on.

I want to make this a huge point. As I walked into the stadium the person checked my ticket, and let me in. There was no pat down, no metal detector, no wand, not even a bag search. He checked my ticket and said "go".

I could have brought a knife, a firearm, a bomb. Really anything I could have fit into my bag or hidden on my person would have gotten into that game with me.

When we arrived to our section it was riddled with Mexico fans, the section was supposed to be US supporters only, or at least that's what we were told. Every single section surrounding us was 99% filled with Mexico fans. We were sitting ducks.

As the game went on we were pelted with anything you can imagine, at one point I was hit with a blowup sex doll. My friends were hit with coins, bottles and beer. One of the USA fans in our section got hit with a bottle flung in from who knows where and turned to a security guard to complain about the lack of action, the security guard stood up on a higher seat, towered over the man and screamed "Turn around and watch the fricking game!". I wish I was exaggerating, but I'm not. Turning and looking up at the crowd all I could see between things flying at my head, were fights. I witnessed a USA fan walk past our section, face bloodied, barely walking, as if he was in a war zone trying to get himself to safety, finally a security guard spotted and helped him.

The main issue I have with the whole day is what happened to our female members, one of them was sexually harassed and groped. This I will not stand for. I would gladly take a bottle to the face to make sure that this NEVER has to happen to any female fan, ever. After the game me and my friends got out of the stadium as fast as possible.

I know that US Soccer is not at fault for what happened on Saturday, but I do know there are things you can do to make sure it does not happen again.

After putting my story on twitter I received messages from people about their horrible experiences at the stadium as USA fans. One girl who went with her father had to leave at half time from getting attacked and having beer poured on them. I truly feel sorry for those USA fans that weren't in our large group, they must have been like a piece of meat to a pack of wolves. There very little security help, and the security guards did pretty much the bare minimum.

My question is how long until some one is killed, or a girl is raped. These things seem severe but what I witnessed at this game was the precursor to those acts. Some of these Mexico fans have nothing but pure hatred for the USA fans. I know not every fan is bad, but when your outnumbered by about 90,000 people, the bad eggs are gonna be there in full force.

I love soccer, I've done all I can to make sure that it grows in this country, and I will continue to support and fight for soccer. But I cannot defend what happened on Saturday, and if we lose fans because of it, I can not blame them.

Please do what you can to make sure this never happens again. No fan should ever have to go through what me and my friends went through on Saturday. If you need anything else from me I will be more than happy to help.

Sincerely,

Russell J.


I had a lot of beer thrown on me, names called, birds flipped, etc., and saw a lot of what was described in the aforementioned letter, and saw a Mexican fan peeing into a half-empty beer cup that was later thrown onto the fans (us) below. We didn't provoke any of this. We knew we were outnumbered and the last thing we wanted to do was start shite. I heard several stories after the game about grown men exposing themselves to little girls and subjecting everyone, children included, to the names, jeers, and object-pelting. While a lot of what went down had to do with a lack of security at the event, none of this would have mattered if the Mexican fans hadn't been acting like animals. It was just ridiculous, and these people should have been ashamed of their behavior. You would never see this sort of thing happen to Mexican fans at a pro-US crowd in, say, Columbus.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28422 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:07 pm to
If I had to guess, I would say that US fans made up only about 5% of the total crowd in that sold-out stadium. Go look up ticketmaster reviews of the event and you'll see overwhelmingly positive circle-jerk reviews from Mexican fans, along with the myriad horror stories from the American fans.


The above letter was picked up by ESPN, SI, etc. It prompted the following response from Sunil Gulati (USSF President):

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An Open Letter to USA fans from the US Soccer Federation .

To our U.S. Soccer fans,

After receiving several complaints about unacceptable behavior towards U.S. fans at the 2011 CONCACAF Gold Cup final at the Rose Bowl, we felt it was necessary to address this issue directly with our supporters. While this was not an event run by U.S. Soccer, and therefore U.S. Soccer did not control the logistics of the match, the safety and security of our fans at any match is our top priority. Since we received the initial complaints, we have been in contact with the tournament organizers to discuss the necessary steps that should be taken to improve the experience at future events. We also know the Rose Bowl has reached out to several of the affected fans to discuss the matter.

U.S. Soccer is committed to providing a positive, safe and enjoyable atmosphere at all U.S. national team events that we host. We can assure you that we will continue to take all the necessary steps to address any potential security issues.

This year, U.S. Soccer launched the Respect Campaign, which includes a number of initiatives to enhance the fan experience, particularly in the area of customer service. Through our in-game texting service, fans can anonymously report any concerns or issues and receive immediate feedback and action from dedicated U.S. Soccer and stadium personnel. We invite all of you to learn more about the Respect Campaign at ussoccer.com.

It is important to remember that the overwhelming majority of supporters who attend matches in the United States showcase their love and appreciation for the game in the right way. Having said that, let us be clear: we will not tolerate dangerous or inappropriate behavior from anyone, regardless of the team they support. We must not allow the issues from the Gold Cup to influence future conduct at our events. Our supporters have helped us earn a reputation of being one of the most fan-friendly nations in soccer, and we are committed to maintaining that standard.

Please continue to contact us with any questions or concerns you may have. Thanks again for all of your support. We look forward to hosting you at a U.S. Soccer event soon.

Sincerely,
Sunil Gulati
President, United States Soccer Federation


So that's that. Now I hate Mexico and their fans. Just thought it was worth presenting this experience to give those new to the board a little perspective on the Mexi-hate. It's a rivalry for a reason, but the Mexicans take it to the n-th degree.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 2:08 pm
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:08 pm to
Was this the game where the US gave up a 2-0 lead and it was just ugly.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:09 pm to
Great post
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
139837 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:11 pm to
Yes it was, as I asked a specific question. Now if you can not comprehend the question, I am sorry.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20685 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:12 pm to
quote:

This year, U.S. Soccer launched the Respect Campaign



Problem solved....
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58036 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I had a lot of beer thrown on me, names called, birds flipped, etc., and saw a lot of what was described in the aforementioned letter, and saw a Mexican fan peeing into a half-empty beer cup that was later thrown onto the fans (us) below. We didn't provoke any of this. We knew we were outnumbered and the last thing we wanted to do was start shite. I heard several stories after the game about grown men exposing themselves to little girls and subjecting everyone, children included, to the names, jeers, and object-pelting. While a lot of what went down had to do with a lack of security at the event, none of this would have mattered if the Mexican fans hadn't been acting like animals. It was just ridiculous, and these people should have been ashamed of their behavior. You would never see this sort of thing happen to Mexican fans at a pro-US crowd in, say, Columbus.


sounds like game day at LSU
Posted by FunkasaurusReb
Memphis
Member since May 2014
870 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:17 pm to
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sounds like game day at LSU


Shut the frick up.

coming from a non-LSU fan.
Posted by PenguinNinja
Antarctica (and Japan)
Member since Sep 2011
2081 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:20 pm to
Thank you for this.
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:21 pm to
Who down voted this? Benhamin?
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
20240 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:25 pm to
I'll so stealing this and changing words to explain USCe 2012
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25943 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:28 pm to
Some of those disgusting pieces of shite that cheer for mexico actually read this board
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:36 pm to
Uhh...so an SEC game? No soccer game is worse than that sensationalism

What happened to SEC uber-alles?

SEC! SEC! SEC!

Where's the Conca love in international?

What hemisphere do you live in?

What country do you live in? (probably more Hispanics here than in Europe and down South)

You want to shield yourselves from reality...it's a joke...

I live in Cali...Mexico owned it before us...and they're back to owning it.

Same with Texas.

What happened to North America vs. the World?

Hating Mexico is like hating your Siamese twin.

Y'all from the Netherlands?

And despite my handle, I'm not remotely Mexican...but it's amazing how regions in America have secret love-fests (like the SEC) but then hate other regions just b/c they have Mexicans. Bunch of quiet racism draped around a flag...Mexicans were west of the Mississippi far before you.
This post was edited on 6/29/14 at 2:38 pm
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Zamoro10



.5/10
Posted by FT
REDACTED
Member since Oct 2003
26925 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

Zamoro10
Yeah, but Mexico fans suck.
Posted by AirRaidTT
Grapevine, TX
Member since May 2008
2683 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:44 pm to
A lot of these problems would be solved if the US had a large amount of hooligan groups. Can you imagine if Mexico tried to frick with England/Poland/Argnetinan fans in this manner?

frick Mexico.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

A lot of these problems would be solved if the US had a large amount of hooligan groups. Can you imagine if Mexico tried to frick with England/Poland/Argnetinan fans in this manner?



Well we are starting to bring larger and larger numbers to matches, so I don't see it happening much longer without something serious going down.
Posted by LL012697
Member since May 2013
3963 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Uhh...so an SEC game? No soccer game is worse than that sensationalism

What happened to SEC uber-alles?

SEC! SEC! SEC!

Where's the Conca love in international?

What hemisphere do you live in?

What country do you live in? (probably more Hispanics here than in Europe and down South)

You want to shield yourselves from reality...it's a joke...

I live in Cali...Mexico owned it before us...and they're back to owning it.

Same with Texas.

What happened to North America vs. the World?

Hating Mexico is like hating your Siamese twin.

Y'all from the Netherlands?

And despite my handle, I'm not remotely Mexican...but it's amazing how regions in America have secret love-fests (like the SEC) but then hate other regions just b/c they have Mexicans. Bunch of quiet racism draped around a flag...Mexicans were west of the Mississippi far before you.




Zamoro....what you have just said, is the most insanely idiotic thing I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/29/14 at 2:52 pm to
This has nothing to do with racism.
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