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Reassure me that Wiggins will make it to #3
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:31 pm
Parker can't play D for shite and we don't need Exum when we have MCW already. Wiggins is a perfect fit.
Philly is gonna have to trade up, right? Damnit. I mean, we have way too many 2s and all, but we'll have to definitely trade #3 and Young at LEAST.
ETA: Though none of you are Sixers fans, so I don't even know why I asked here...
Philly is gonna have to trade up, right? Damnit. I mean, we have way too many 2s and all, but we'll have to definitely trade #3 and Young at LEAST.
ETA: Though none of you are Sixers fans, so I don't even know why I asked here...
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:32 pm
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Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:36 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Philly is gonna have to trade up, right?
Most likely. Embiid isn't going in the top 3 anymore, so your best hope would be for Exum to sneak up there into the 1 or 2 spot with Jabari filling the other spot obviously.
I saw somewhere that Cleveland prefers Jabari so that helps a bit.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:42 pm to RTR America
Yeah it seems Cleveland prefers Jabari, and that's who the Bucks wanted. So maybe they don't like Wiggins and trade back or take Exum or someone else. But Wiggins seems unlikely.
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:48 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I don't see Wiggins making it past #2
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:49 pm to Ed Wuncler III
Yeah best case scenario for Philly fans would be Milwaukee feeling like Wiggins and Giannis are too comparable of players.
They could probably play Brandon Knight and Exum together in the backcourt.
They could probably play Brandon Knight and Exum together in the backcourt.
This post was edited on 6/19/14 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 6/19/14 at 11:59 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Hes not going to make it to #3. Especially with Embiid having that stress fracture and surgery. And I think Parker goes #2 overall.
Itll be Exum. And I dont think thats a bad pick at all. I think its a better fit than everything else on the board honestly(Smart, Randle, injured Embiid). I mean MCW and Exum both are 6'5 - 6'6 and both can play the point or 2 guard. I dont really think that would be an issue. And PG isnt like it used to be... where the PG always gets the outlet pass and brings the ball up the court. Now a days its a transition / get out and run game. Every team has a handful of guys that can bring the ball up the court in transition, some teams have 4.
And I think having MCW, Exum, Thad, Noel?, would be nasty on the fast break.
Hell... if I was the 76ers I would take Exum at 3 and then snag Cle'Anthony Early at 10. MCW, Exum, Early, Thad, and Noel... not too shabby. I know Early isnt the "sexy" or big name pick... but I think hes going to be a solid NBA player with a long career.
Plus, IMO, the NBA draft is the 1 draft where I would just take the BPA and not try and find a "perfect fit". Especially if the player I have at the top of my board is gone. And lets be honest... the 76ers could take a guy at any position and it would be a fit. I would rather draft the BPA and figure out the "fit" later than reach on a guy or made an irrational decision.
Itll be Exum. And I dont think thats a bad pick at all. I think its a better fit than everything else on the board honestly(Smart, Randle, injured Embiid). I mean MCW and Exum both are 6'5 - 6'6 and both can play the point or 2 guard. I dont really think that would be an issue. And PG isnt like it used to be... where the PG always gets the outlet pass and brings the ball up the court. Now a days its a transition / get out and run game. Every team has a handful of guys that can bring the ball up the court in transition, some teams have 4.
And I think having MCW, Exum, Thad, Noel?, would be nasty on the fast break.
Hell... if I was the 76ers I would take Exum at 3 and then snag Cle'Anthony Early at 10. MCW, Exum, Early, Thad, and Noel... not too shabby. I know Early isnt the "sexy" or big name pick... but I think hes going to be a solid NBA player with a long career.
Plus, IMO, the NBA draft is the 1 draft where I would just take the BPA and not try and find a "perfect fit". Especially if the player I have at the top of my board is gone. And lets be honest... the 76ers could take a guy at any position and it would be a fit. I would rather draft the BPA and figure out the "fit" later than reach on a guy or made an irrational decision.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:00 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:03 am to KG5989
My problem with Exum is he's too much like MCW. He's not a bad player, but we wouldn't really have reliable jump shooting. I know Wiggins isn't an amazing jump shooter either, but still.
I trust Hinkie a lot though.
I trust Hinkie a lot though.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:06 am to KG5989
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mean MCW and Exum both are 6'5 - 6'6 and both can play the point or 2 guard.
Neither can shoot though
If you want to go that route though I'd say go with Marcus Smart. Apparently the analytics are through the roof on the guy. Kevin Pelton has him as the best player in the draft.
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then snag Cle'Anthony Early at 10
WAY WAY too early for him there. Apparently his workouts have been terrible. He just can't dribble.
Draft Express doesn't have him going until #33.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:07 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:13 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Yeah I know... but how many reliable jump shooters are there in this draft that would be worth the #3 pick? You want McBuckets?
And, for the most part, the art of the jump shot / mid range game in the NBA isnt what it used to be. Players are more reliant on their athleticism and getting to the rim than they are on their jump shooting.
I actually am kinda liking the combo of MCW and Exum. Both guys can get to the rim, pass and rebound well, and can create for themselves, and more importantly, for others. And most guys have great size for their positions and are very long on defense.
I mean with Parker and Wiggins off the board, who would you want at #3? I dont see the Bucks or Cavs trading back, considering they want Wiggins and Parker. So would you wanna trade back? I mean the 76ers do have the #3 and #10 pick, so they have a lot of options and flexibility if they want to.
And, for the most part, the art of the jump shot / mid range game in the NBA isnt what it used to be. Players are more reliant on their athleticism and getting to the rim than they are on their jump shooting.
I actually am kinda liking the combo of MCW and Exum. Both guys can get to the rim, pass and rebound well, and can create for themselves, and more importantly, for others. And most guys have great size for their positions and are very long on defense.
I mean with Parker and Wiggins off the board, who would you want at #3? I dont see the Bucks or Cavs trading back, considering they want Wiggins and Parker. So would you wanna trade back? I mean the 76ers do have the #3 and #10 pick, so they have a lot of options and flexibility if they want to.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:15 am to RTR America
Yeah I know.... I was just saying snag a quality player at the 3 spot with the 10th pick... doesnt have to be Early.
And no neither can shoot... but a lot of back court duos struggle with the jump shot now a days anyhow. Players are relying on getting to the rim and athleticism so much now a days.
And taking Smart at #3 would be fine as well. Just was talking about Exum because the OP mentioned him.
And no neither can shoot... but a lot of back court duos struggle with the jump shot now a days anyhow. Players are relying on getting to the rim and athleticism so much now a days.
And taking Smart at #3 would be fine as well. Just was talking about Exum because the OP mentioned him.
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 12:17 am
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:21 am to KG5989
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I mean with Parker and Wiggins off the board, who would you want at #3?
I'd rather trade #3 and something to move up for Wiggins, honestly. I'd like to believe 3 and some of our 2s could do it, but that's just not realistic. It'd have to be Thad + some 2s or #10.
Exum is probably really the best choice if we stay at 3.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:27 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I think if the Sixers truly value Wiggins significantly higher than anyone else in the draft, they should consider trading #3 and #10 for the top pick.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:27 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I just dont see the Bucks or Cavs giving up the 1 or 2 spot for anything realistic that the 76ers can offer though. I dont think they would take Thad + #3 and some 2s for the 1 or 2 pick. And anything more than that would be a bad move on the 76ers.
I mean if you want to get a shooter, why not take Smart / Exum at #3 and then McBuckets at 10? Or Rodney Hood?
I also think that James Young will be a top 5 player from this draft and it seems like he doesnt get any press or love from the media.
I mean if you want to get a shooter, why not take Smart / Exum at #3 and then McBuckets at 10? Or Rodney Hood?
I also think that James Young will be a top 5 player from this draft and it seems like he doesnt get any press or love from the media.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:31 am to KG5989
The basketball Eagles will get Exum and like it.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:40 am to KG5989
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I also think that James Young will be a top 5 player from this draft and it seems like he doesnt get any press or love from the media.
From what I have read it seems like signing on with Jay-z's agency group didn't do him any favors.
The good thing about him is that the stuff that worries me about his game are things that can be developed and improved with NBA playing time. He is a terrible passer and his ball handling isn't that great, but his jumper is beautiful.
Plus this...
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:43 am to KG5989
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I mean if you want to get a shooter, why not take Smart / Exum at #3 and then McBuckets at 10? Or Rodney Hood?
I'm fine with McBuckets or Hood at 10, honestly. But my whole point sort of centers around needing offense and needing it bad.
MCW/Exum/McBuckets/Thad/Noel
That starting five has potential, and of course depth matters, but I feel like we will end up not getting enough offense out of those five combined. At his best I think MCW can be a mid teens per game shooter. He simply doesn't need to be taking a lot of shots. He has the potential to become one of (if not the best) defensive guards in the league in a few years, and one of the best rebounding points. I think he's a good passer, but really the less shots he takes the better. So then there is Exum, who I see in a similar light. Probably a better scorer though. Noel certainly isn't going to be some sort of offensive great.
I don't know, I guess my point would be I don't see a real number one option on offense in that lineup.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:49 am to RTR America
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The good thing about him is that the stuff that worries me about his game are things that can be developed and improved with NBA playing time. He is a terrible passer and his ball handling isn't that great, but his jumper is beautiful.
Yep same here. Most players are opposite. As in they can dribble well and good passers and all that, but can't shoot or score. Young can shoot and score really well already and in a variety of ways. And his passing and dribbling will improve when he matures and gets older, as will his basketball IQ.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 12:53 am to KG5989
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Yep same here. Most players are opposite. As in they can dribble well and good passers and all that, but can't shoot or score. Young can shoot and score really well already and in a variety of ways. And his passing and dribbling will improve when he matures and gets older, as will his basketball IQ.
It helps that he is the 3rd youngest guy in the draft
Posted on 6/20/14 at 9:59 am to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I'm on board with Exam at 3. Been pretty fascinated with him since he was a potential LSU recruit ranked in the 20s two years ago. Watched all of his games at the u19 last year and I think most people are projecting him as a PG because he can play there, not because its his best position, at least right now. He has a lot of Wade's slashing and finishing game in him. I'd certainly say he is more of an alpha scorer than MCW and even Wiggins, he finishes much better around the rim than either of those guys from what I've seen.
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