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can someone explain the knock out round seeding?

Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:55 pm
Posted by DriveByBBQ
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:55 pm
If we advance who would we be most likely to play in the first elimination round?
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:57 pm
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:58 pm to
If we finish second in the group, matched with Belgium, Russia, S Korea, Algeria group. Which most likely means we play Belgium, who will probably finish atop their group.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:58 pm to
1st place group G plays 2nd place group H
2nd place group G plays 1st place group H

i'm thinking Belgium wins group H
2nd is a tossup between South Korea, Algeria, and Russia
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:59 pm
Posted by bengalsfootball
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:59 pm to
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Posted by DriveByBBQ
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:03 pm to
And of the 4 teams in our group where would Belgium rank? They seem to me, as a casual fan, to be weaker than any team in our group.
Posted by arkyhawk
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

And of the 4 teams in our group where would Belgium rank? They seem to me, as a casual fan, to be weaker than any team in our group.


Probably 2nd behind Germany.
Posted by LSUtiger17
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:17 pm to
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2nd behind Germany
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

And of the 4 teams in our group where would Belgium rank? They seem to me, as a casual fan, to be weaker than any team in our group.


Yea, nope. They didn't play great but Belgium is a legit dark horse.

If you had to rank the teams I would go something like this in tiers IMO

Tier 1
Germany

Tier 2
Belgium

Tier 3
Portugal
USA
Ghana
Russia

Tier 4
Korea
Algeria

Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:38 pm to
Portugal is tier 2 with Belgium. People are overreacting to one awful game.

Russia is better than us. I think that South Korea is above Algeria.

Would rank as following:

Germany
Belgium/Portugal (toss up)
Russia
USA
Ghana - no points, suck it
South Korea
Algeria
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:46 pm to
You are probably right about Portugal.

As for Russia being better than us, I wasn't ranking them below us. Just put them in that same tier. The order was not a ranking.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 9:59 pm to
I would rank the teams like this

Germany
Portugal
Belgium
Ghana
US
Russia
South Korea
Algeria

However, Portugal without Almeida, Coentrao, and Pepe is possibly worse than Belgium.

If we make it into the quarters, we will be playing a team from either the French or Argentine group, which isn't bad at all.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

If we make it into the quarters, we will be playing a team from either the French or Argentine group, which isn't bad at all.
We'll most likely be playing Argentina. I would say that's bad.
Posted by Keys Open Doors
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:12 pm to
It is the quarters. I'd rather face Argentina than Germany, Brazil, Spain, the Netherlands, Italy, etc.

Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:18 pm to
I'd rather face France than Argentina.
Posted by lsugradman
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 10:36 pm to
Is Russia really better than us? From what ive seen of them I would say we are about level overall. The certainly are more skilled than we are but I think our size and athleticism are superior to theirs.
Posted by DriveByBBQ
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

1st place group G plays 2nd place group H
2nd place group G plays 1st place group H



So it's just arbitrary in this regard? Is there some alphabetical methodology?
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 11:02 pm
Posted by CheerWhine
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:08 am to
quote:

So it's just arbitrary in this regard? Is there some alphabetical methodology?


There are groups with letters A-H. They match up groups A-B, C-D, E-F, and G-H in the first knockout round. So if we advance from group G, we'd play a team from group H. Which teams go in which groups in the first place is somewhat arbitrary (they do a draw for it), except the host is always in group A.
Posted by DriveByBBQ
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Posted on 6/18/14 at 1:57 pm to
Excellent answer thanks
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