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Government has rotten email systems, IRS loses more emails of 6

Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:51 am
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:51 am
additional employees. If the gubs hadda listened to Rush, they would know to back up their PC's. This is what you get with the lowest bidders for email software

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IRS Has Lost More E-mails . . .

It’s not just Lois Lerner’s e-mails. The Internal Revenue Service says it can’t produce e-mails from six more employees involved in the targeting of conservative groups, according to two Republicans investigating the scandal.

The IRS told Ways and Means chairman Dave Camp and subcommittee chairman Charles Boustany that computer crashes resulted in additional lost e-mails, including from Nikole Flax, the chief of staff to former IRS commissioner Steven Miller, who was fired in the wake of the targeting scandal.

The revelation about Lerner’s e-mails rekindled the scandal and today’s news has further inflamed Republicans. Camp and Boustany are now demanding a special prosecutor to investigate “every angle” of the targeting. They expressed particular outrage that the agency has known since February that it would not be able to produce the e-mails requested by the committee yet did not apprise the committee of that fact, and they charged in a statement that the IRS is attempting to “cover up the fact that it convenient lost key documents in the investigation.”

If Lerner is the central figure in the scandal — Oversight Committee chairman Darrell Issa said Monday evening he believes she was the senior-most official involved — Flax may be an important auxiliary figure. E-mails produced in response to a Freedom of Information Act request from the group Judicial Watch show Flax giving the green light to Lerner’s request to meet with Department of Justice officials to explore the possibility of criminally prosecuting nonprofit groups — at the suggestion of Democratic senator Sheldon Whitehouse — for engaging in political activity after declaring on their application for nonprofit status that they had no plans to do so.

E-mails uncovered by the committee last week showed that, in preparation for her meeting with the Department of Justice, Lerner and one of her advisers transmitted 1.1 million pages of data on nonprofit groups, including confidential taxpayer information, to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, potentially in violation of federal law.
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:56 am to
Corruption of the highest order.

Ironic the same organization will jail people for not being able to produce documentation relative to income.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:57 am to
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Corruption of the highest order.

Ironic the same organization will jail people for not being able to produce documentation relative to income.


do as they say, not as they do
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:58 am to
This is the most corrupt administration I've ever seen.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77964 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:58 am to
I do IT work for a living. They are 100% straight up lying.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:59 am to
Not a mother fukking SMIDGEN!!!
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:05 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 11:59 am to
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Ironic the same organization will jail people for not being able to locate the documentation that the afformentioned organization already received from aforementioned people who produced documentation relative to income from decades ago
FIFY
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:00 pm to
frick the IRS

These ****s are in charge of our personal data and records in terms of income and other data and they can't even back up their emails.

Listen to me IRS, when you come to audit me, I will just say I lost everything in a computer crash. If that's a good enough excuse for you its a good enough excuse for me.

Douche bags, all of them.
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:00 pm to
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I do IT work for a living. They are 100% straight up lying.

I saw a guy on Twitter claim that their annual operational IT budget alone is ~$2.2bil. Very hard to believe that they could have been simply lost permanently, especially with the amount of litigation that this particular agency is involved in on the reg.

ETA: page 1 of the doc (page 3 of the file)
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
you think? we are in the same boat, except I know first hand the shite is backed up to keep track of EVERYfrickINGTHING, after all they might need to put an american citizen on trial someday.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
What are the odds that 7 PC's hard drives all crash within days of each other??

Do those people think everyone is a fool to believe that?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40125 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I do IT work for a living. They are 100% straight up lying.


quote:

SG_Geaux


prepare thy anus, you just got moved to the top of the audit list and check for drones
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20868 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

I do IT work for a living. They are 100% straight up lying.



Our IT guys said the same thing. It's never "gone" gone.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67079 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:02 pm to
Exactly, it's practically impossible to destroy an email even when you're actively trying to do so and know exactly what you're doing. Losing them is nearly impossible. This is absolutely a cover-up. If there wasn't anything to hide, then why are they covering it up?
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17712 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:03 pm to
I work in IT as well. If I told my supervisor that we 'lost' every single email that's being requested. I'd be fired.
Posted by KeyserSoze999
Member since Dec 2009
10608 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

Do those people think everyone is a fool to believe that?


no its even more simple, they simply dont Give a F
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:04 pm to
I think one can infer that by lost they mean: intentionally deleted and we are not going to look for the selections unless ordered to by a court of competent jurisdiction.

I feel certain that Obama will be directly implicated in this after he is out of office.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51586 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

I do IT work for a living. They are 100% straight up lying.


Ditto. I railed about this all weekend in the 17-page thread, including multiple points in how the data could be found even if it was just her computer.

One computer... okay, I have seen them die (doesn't explain the lack of mail server backups/archives nor the lack of printed materials she was mandated to do) but six is beyond impossible. A person would have better odds of winning the Powerball and the Lotto on the same night.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79677 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:05 pm to
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What are the odds that 7 PC's hard drives all crash within days of each other??

Do those people think everyone is a fool to believe that?


That's the whole thing, Russian.

We're dealing with unbridled and unprecedented arrogance here. They don't care WHAT you or I think. That's their story by damn, and they're sticking to it.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/17/14 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

IRS Has Lost More E-mails . . .


These guys are just flat out unlucky. What are the odds that six more employees had the same thing happen to them as well? Amazing.

Do not take these guys to Vegas with you.
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